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#21
05-18-2009, 11:57 PM
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Joel, ya you're right it is twisted just a hair. Good eye. I plan to loosen everything up and twist it a tad.
Yeah I like the plastic aluminum look there. It's at least 5 pounds lighter! Must be good for a .tenth 
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#22
05-19-2009, 07:50 AM
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http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...=591998&page=4 #64 and 69. There is some play between the tab on the plate and the slot on the hydroboost.
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#23
05-20-2009, 01:33 AM
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Damn you guys are rough!!! OK I'll Twist it!
 My bolts were pretty evenly horizontal Ollie (referrring to you question in the other thread..) I did recall when putting the HB on that the booster will swivel a bit. As you noted the notch and the tab do have some play. THis isnt my "Final" install so I'll get that right. I am going overseas on a trip and will be gone till June so I'll get to it when I get home. I'm gonna miss some prime warm working on the car weather too! Good luck on your projects while Im gone guys! I expect some updates.
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#24
06-08-2009, 06:31 PM
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OK, Back from Travel.
FYI you "eagle eyes" I rotated my Hydroboost setup so now its level.. I'm working on my Brake lines now, fabbing up my front lines myself. How'd you guys do?
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#25
08-17-2009, 09:17 AM
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Hi Guys:
I was re-reading this thread in anticipation of my install. I just picked up a Safari HB unit, in prime shape, including the 1.25" m/c, proportioning valve, remote reservoir and fittings for the pressure lines (these are just to make sure I know which fittings to get when I have the lines made up) for $25. I'm not sure the year of the Safari but I'm thinking '93 or '94. What I did notice that is different from VidGuy's booster is that mine has a flat mount plate. No raised/depressed are around the nut. And mine also has a very slight tilt upward to the unit. Using two small levels I measured it scientifically at nose up by 1/8 of a bubble. Now to figure out my mounting. The adaptor plate looks good but I read that some guys are having problems with not getting delivery. I'm thinking I'll be mounting mine upside down and working out something along the line of VidGuy's install. Possibly with an intermediate plate. Who knows? This is a great thread. Stewart
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1976 TA, nose converted to 1970 style, 406, ported #13 Heads, '70 iron intake without crossovers, Q-Jet - Cliff style, RARE OS manifolds, Pypes duals w/crossflow, UD 230/238 custom HR 4/7 swap cam with solid roller lifters  , Hydro-Boost 4-wheel discs, 4 Speed, 3.23 posi.“Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.” - Winston Churchill Last edited by Murf'sDad; 08-17-2009 at 09:44 AM. |
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#26
08-17-2009, 10:21 AM
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Yes great Mod and good info here. .
When Im done I'm going to consolidate all this info and See if I cant get B-Man or another moderator to make it a sticky. I'm at the point of figuring out the hoses.. I think the perfectly flat plate is what I would have preferred. But I didn't have that. Hence the slight angles I used to get the rod straight. It wasnt a big deal but I would have preferred the flat plate. Since I ended up having to drill the plate to fit the firewall studs, as you will anyhow I elected to NOT pay $30.00 for the flat plate the guy on eBay sells. I would have had to drill that too.. So I used mine. I wonder (dont think so, but wonder) now if the flat plate would have put parts of my install very close to my heads or valve covers. Maybe the hard brake lines I made anyhow.. I'll see when I install the motor. You scored. Keep us up-to-date. I am going to use my Stock Steering Gear and Pump. So I need to find adapters for the SAE fittings on the gear to the Newer lines... I think... I have never used AN lines or fittings so I know zero about using these things where to find them and whats available.. I have looked around and the choices are wildly confusing  Here is a link to Old Goats slideshow on photobucket.. http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/a...view=slideshow The last 2 shots show the hoses he used that fit the hydroboost. He cut the gear and pump ends and flared them to SAE.. I want to find adapters.. just for simplicity. The part numbers he used were: GM 357640 GM 35-366630
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#27
08-17-2009, 01:43 PM
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Adapters for at the steering box? I know they are available and used on trucks alot. I can find them if that is what you are looking for.
Not sure if this is what you need but they may have other adapters aswell (Lee manufacturing). Go to the second last post in this thread: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthr...ght=hydroboost
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#28
08-17-2009, 01:53 PM
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If I can get hoses made up, I may or I may use the GM hoses with adaptors or new SAE ends. Haven't gotten that far yet. Let me know what you find for adaptors. It looks like I may have to use the OEM proportioning valve. It has one line in for the front and two lines out. The later ones have one line in and one line out into a y-block to the front calipers. Either that or get a y-block. Stewart
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1976 TA, nose converted to 1970 style, 406, ported #13 Heads, '70 iron intake without crossovers, Q-Jet - Cliff style, RARE OS manifolds, Pypes duals w/crossflow, UD 230/238 custom HR 4/7 swap cam with solid roller lifters , Hydro-Boost 4-wheel discs, 4 Speed, 3.23 posi.“Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.” - Winston Churchill |
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#29
08-17-2009, 01:56 PM
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Stewart
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1976 TA, nose converted to 1970 style, 406, ported #13 Heads, '70 iron intake without crossovers, Q-Jet - Cliff style, RARE OS manifolds, Pypes duals w/crossflow, UD 230/238 custom HR 4/7 swap cam with solid roller lifters , Hydro-Boost 4-wheel discs, 4 Speed, 3.23 posi.“Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.” - Winston Churchill |
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#30
08-17-2009, 02:04 PM
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"Simplicity" for me was buying a $6.00 die at Car Quest and doing the double-flare.
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08-17-2009, 02:33 PM
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''This is a copy from one of the post you linked to. This is something I have been looking for and will save alot of time. O-ring to Flare adapters for '81 and down Hydroboost.
Bill usn-1 Moderator IH Fuel Injection Next I had to run the pressure hoses. This is where I did a little research. I found a really neat way to convert the late model o-ring fittings to the old style inverted flare that the scout uses. They are bushings made by Lee manufacturing. 818-768-0371 Pressure 40620 $3.97 Return 40630 $3.97 They tap right in using a 1/4" bolt and nut as a driver! Once in, the stock scout hoses bolt right up! Best part is they are about $10 total to your door.'' Here is some major reading but looks like the most HB stuff in one place. ''well... you wanted partsdnumbers well you wanted more info... so I "pirated" this from Pirate... so now its all in one place Hydroboost brake conglomerate... read/ask here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am doing this because there just isn't enough information in one spot on hydroboost brakes. Here http://www.azbronco.org/tech11.htm http://www.vancopbs.com/hbindex.htm http://www.members.tripod.com/surfmac/21.html Billavista's pump tech info http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ng/index2.html he asks questions here http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...oost+Brakesand a thread he started asking about what others use for their pumps http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes pump upgrades http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.co...rsteering.html http://www.off-road.com/trucks4x4/ar....jsp?id=264075 http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes Peddle depression on start-up problems http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes good info http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes Also good info http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes And this is the priceless one that I was searching for, forever! It's about the master cylinder pushrod length (explained well how to figure it by Kieth) http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...light=push+rod This one is not really on Hydroboost, but folks talking about different Master Cylinders they have used with their different set-ups. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...roboost+Brakes there... now this should keep you busy cam'' Sorry if alot of this does not apply but this stuff has been gone over ALOT by offroad truck people. Good info if you need it i suppose. I have HB on both my 80 chev and my 93 chev and they brake phenomenal! The ventura will be getting HB this winter.
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08-17-2009, 03:13 PM
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Thanx Derek. Lots of info for all to see.
Stewart Edit: Maybe I spoke too soon. All of the Pirate 4X4 threads are "not found" as are a number of the rest. Couple of things though.
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1976 TA, nose converted to 1970 style, 406, ported #13 Heads, '70 iron intake without crossovers, Q-Jet - Cliff style, RARE OS manifolds, Pypes duals w/crossflow, UD 230/238 custom HR 4/7 swap cam with solid roller lifters , Hydro-Boost 4-wheel discs, 4 Speed, 3.23 posi.“Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.” - Winston Churchill Last edited by Murf'sDad; 08-17-2009 at 03:22 PM. |
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#33
08-17-2009, 03:26 PM
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Check again, i went back and fixed them. Atleast i can see them all without being logged in.
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Derek B. Current best: 11.97@110 1.65-60' !!! '74 ventura, (Fired july 14/06) '74 462 4-bolt (9.5-1), SCAT, Ross, T-II w/850DP (shaker455), TH350, Conti 10'' 3800, Supercomps, Magnaflow, 3'' Pypes, 3.73's, 28x13.5-15 ET streets.1970 Beismeyer 17' flatbottom vdrive, 11.8:1 455P, ported heads, dual Qjet tunnel ram.
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08-17-2009, 03:29 PM
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Thanx Derek.Stewart
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1976 TA, nose converted to 1970 style, 406, ported #13 Heads, '70 iron intake without crossovers, Q-Jet - Cliff style, RARE OS manifolds, Pypes duals w/crossflow, UD 230/238 custom HR 4/7 swap cam with solid roller lifters , Hydro-Boost 4-wheel discs, 4 Speed, 3.23 posi.“Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.” - Winston Churchill |
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08-17-2009, 05:15 PM
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Awesome Derek! Thanks!!
I'll combine that with some of my Hydroboost links that haven't been posted! Here ya go: http://www.thehollisterroadcompany.com/hydroboost.html Good info on installing and hoses and adapters ------------ http://www.classicperform.com/Instru...PDF/CP3022.pdf PDF file of Classic Performance' installation instructions. Has some good general info on bleeding them ------------ http://chevroletforum.com/forum/arch...php/t-572.html Some more info on bleeding them etc. ------------ http://www.pacificp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8530 INfo on a guys install in a newer Tahoe. He bought the flat bracket off of ebay. ------------ http://www.scribd.com/doc/6829161/Op...-of-HYDROBOOST That one's kinda cool. It is a repair and troubleshooting document. Shows how they work. ------------ http://www.angryamerica.com/chevelles/hydroboost.html This guy bought the kit and installed it. Gives some info on the hoses. ------------ http://classicbroncos.com/forums/arc...p?t-92316.html They do this swap a lot in Early Broncos. Here is a Very informative thread. He too has some adapter hose info... ------------ http://www.performancetrucks.net/for...d.php?t=445079 This guy makes a note of the problem of not hooking up the return line correctly and how it made his brakes drag.. ------------ Derek I would LOVE some help with the adapters.. I'm going to first buy the hoses that Old Goat used. See how they fit, and then I'll know what adapters I might need. I'd like to see people list the parts they used when they are done Mainly the hoses situation. I know Joel Koontz did that and others have had them made up. Old Goat 67.. I just flared a bunch of brake lines. I'm not bad at it...I know you did that and I may give that a try.....I'd like to price the non "destructive approach" first. (Adapters) that's more what I meant then Simplicity.. Hey you're the Hydroboost MAN.. that got me going on this..
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08-17-2009, 05:20 PM
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#37
08-17-2009, 06:07 PM
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I think the fitting on the rear of the power steering pump can be removed and the proper one installed.
You could just have hoses made up with the proper ends, whichever it may be. These guys should have adapters but you will need to call them.
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Derek B. Current best: 11.97@110 1.65-60' !!! '74 ventura, (Fired july 14/06) '74 462 4-bolt (9.5-1), SCAT, Ross, T-II w/850DP (shaker455), TH350, Conti 10'' 3800, Supercomps, Magnaflow, 3'' Pypes, 3.73's, 28x13.5-15 ET streets.1970 Beismeyer 17' flatbottom vdrive, 11.8:1 455P, ported heads, dual Qjet tunnel ram.
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08-17-2009, 06:16 PM
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I was going to price the stock hoses + the adapters. I think that might be cheaper.
I also talked to a vendor on eBay that has a power Steering pump for Hydroboost. I could buy that and swap that reservoir onto my pump and use the stock hose from the Hydroboost to the pump anyhow. Then a fitting or somethign else custom on the Steering gear... Thinking out loud.. Im going to call them.
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#39
08-17-2009, 06:41 PM
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Ok Called Lee Manufacturing.
Turns out they are some kind of generic plug fitting that you drive in and then thread into. Apparently they sell a lot of them the nice lady said. $4.00 each nowadays I didnt ask what the shipping was, I but ordered them!
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08-17-2009, 07:28 PM
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Do the adaptors convert to or from the 45* flare? The ones BILTIT cited are to convert from the o-ring fittings to the inverted flare. If you get the GM o-ring hoses you need to convert the inverted flair in the pump and box to the o-ring style. Do these do that?
Just a little confused. Stewart
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1976 TA, nose converted to 1970 style, 406, ported #13 Heads, '70 iron intake without crossovers, Q-Jet - Cliff style, RARE OS manifolds, Pypes duals w/crossflow, UD 230/238 custom HR 4/7 swap cam with solid roller lifters , Hydro-Boost 4-wheel discs, 4 Speed, 3.23 posi.“Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.” - Winston Churchill |
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