[unruhjonny]

iirc the four speed supplier change had nothing to do with model, but everything to do with model year;
I am pretty confident that a 1973 Grand Am with a four speed would have a muncie.
If it was a late 1974 car, then it would likely have a BW ST-10.
If it was a 350-2bbl, it would probably be a saginaw.

It’s a Pontiac, so it should have a (factory) hurst shifter.
That’s probably an i credibly rare shifter arm - as it would be 1973-75(?) Pontiac specific;
Likely shared between Grand Am’s, (1973) GTO’s, and Lemans’.

[big matt]

It would makes sense i suppose as the trans code on the phs is m20. I am unsure if that is a hurst shifter. Will know this weekend when i pick the car up. I bet it is an rare one. Every 4 speed grand am i have ever seen has a center console and probably a different stick. Now if i cam find a factory ram air hood pan and air cleaner. ��

[unruhjonny]

except M20 is actually an RPO code.

That RPO code has in essence been used to describe a version of the Muncie four speed.

I used to know the “SM—-“ code that GM used to designate the Muncie four speed, except I can’t recall it now.

[big matt]

Yep. I am picking up what you are laying down. Thank you for your input. Btw, how is that formula been treating you? Still have the red one? You had a 73 silver formula 350 as well no? Still have it? Those are great cars as well. I still have my 4 speed 70 formy as well. Its sees only 5-600 miles a year. It still has its share of loose ends to tidy. I continue to button a few things up every year.

[unruhjonny]

The 73 was a car I found for my brother, and owned it for a spell - but he expressed i terest in getting it back, so it’s his again.

My 70 was always rusty;
It’s undergoing an excruciatingly slow repair.

[big matt]

Slow and steady. Hopefully you can still drive it from time to time, to help you keep motivated. These cars, or any hobby car is a labor of love for sure. Thanks

[big matt]

Got it home today. Was just as i expected. Untouched, all original, and drives quite decently. Clutch is tired. Shifter needs a rebuild, and drivers power seat is all the way forward and i am 6'5" tall. Oh well. The ac still works and the frame and body is cleaner than 90% of the original 50 year old cars i have seen. The 400 is quieter than any other i have ever heard. You almost cant hear it idling. . Seller was a great guy to deal with. Let the fun begin.

[unruhjonny]

Originally Posted by big matt

Slow and steady. Hopefully you can still drive it from time to time, to help you keep motivated. These cars, or any hobby car is a labor of love for sure. Thanks

that’s going to be a little tough.

lol.

I have two little kids now, but on the upside, they are getting at the age where I can start spending more time in the garage!!

[big matt]

Wow. Your on a rotisserie. When you get that level of work, the mental and financial focus must be on point. Good luck, bur you've had that car for a long time. You'll pull through. Just takes time. Enjoy the kids while tou can, they are worth more than the car.

[unruhjonny]

The car will come;
I have been going dow rabbit trails of finding as correct parts ect as possible.

Thanks for your kind words

[keith k]

Originally Posted by big matt

Got it home today. Was just as i expected. Untouched, all original, and drives quite decently. Clutch is tired. Shifter needs a rebuild, and drivers power seat is all the way forward and i am 6'5" tall. Oh well. The ac still works and the frame and body is cleaner than 90% of the original 50 year old cars i have seen. The 400 is quieter than any other i have ever heard. You almost cant hear it idling. . Seller was a great guy to deal with. Let the fun begin.

Good to hear - looking forward to the progress reports!