[noob_goat]

How difficult is rewiring a '69 GTO using a Painless harness (http://www.painlessperformance.com/harness4.htm)?

I am a complete amateur. It seems (seems) like it shouldn't be too horrible a task given the instructions that come with the kit and the existing wiring to act as a guide.

Is it something a monkey could do (a determined monkey) or am I setting myself up for a lot of pleasant evening driving with the inerior lit by sparks shooting out of the dash?

[noob_goat]

How difficult is rewiring a '69 GTO using a Painless harness (http://www.painlessperformance.com/harness4.htm)?

I am a complete amateur. It seems (seems) like it shouldn't be too horrible a task given the instructions that come with the kit and the existing wiring to act as a guide.

Is it something a monkey could do (a determined monkey) or am I setting myself up for a lot of pleasant evening driving with the inerior lit by sparks shooting out of the dash?

[Tom McQueen]

I am currently rewiring my 70 GTO. While the kit is called 'Painless', and its very well made and complete, the actual task of putting it in is anything but. Welcome to my nightmare.

[walsh1]

i would look seriously at replacing the harness with the ones you can get at PY. Its a simple plug and go and I suspect youd save a lot of agrevation by the time your done.Time is money.
I replaced the front end and engine harness on mine and it was very easy.

[acowboy]

oh man tom...i never knew what a flashback was until i saw your pic!!!!! hahahahahaa

[Tom McQueen]

Brady, if it wasnt for the fridge full of beer I would have slashed my wrists a week ago.

[David Jones]

M&H

http://kurtspontiac.homestead.com/DavidJones69GTO.html

[ErikW]

Painless kits are great if you are staring with nothing or wiring a street rod / race car. I agree with ohio69 about the direct replacement sets if your just trying to repair under the dash or engine compartment. However, if your car is like most of that era it's pretty much been butchered from one end to the other and the painless kit would be more cost effective. They are very complete and of excellent quality. Good Luck!

[Tom McQueen]

I had no choice but to start over. The original wiring was what, 33 years old? And Im adding electric windows, remote keyless entry, AC where there was no AC, electric mirrors, electric fuel pump, electric fans, complete Autometer dash, etc. This is one of those experiences you have to do once just so you can say 'never again'.

[acowboy]

i did the painless route with my 70 el camino, and like tom above,,was wore out before i got it done.....and like the post above, i did my 70 goat with M&H,and was easy as pie...but, it was stock redo...with all the addos you have, dont know which way i would go..........lotsa luck!!!

[JC455]

Tom,
The harness that you're installing- does it include bulk head connections? If not, how are you wiring it-- are you installing a bulkhead, or are you just going straight into the engine bay?
Thanks!!

John

[Tom McQueen]

This is the 18 circuit GM musclecar kit. It goes right into the same opening the factory fuse box came out of. Has a very stock looking loom coming out the other side (into the engine bay) and seals very nicely. Like my original post said, its a great kit. Very well thought out. Im just not what you would call an enthusiastic electrician.

[Bob with the 66]

I thought about using painless until I found M/H. There wiring harness fit great. Plug in and go, and I wired in a electric pump, HEI, MSD, Auto meter guages, line lock, and now Nitrous with another electric pump. Whats good about the stock harness is that options like rr defrost, console and such just plug in just like at the assembly plant.
M/H has a tech line that came in handy also.
Just my .02. Good Luck

All good things are worth waiting for. "Yeah right", I want them now!

"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity".

[TIAUTOMAN]

I had very good luck with the painless kit.
No problems what so ever.
I even used the universal dash harness for my autometer dash. No problems what so ever.
If you can read a schematic, you can rewire the car.

[mick]

Can someone tell me what M/H is.???.. I also need to rewire my 71 GTO thanks

[kate`s67gto]

M/H is a wiring fabricator manufacturer. They make wire harnesses for muscle cars and the likes.
I got mine from them with HEI and setup for internal voltage regulator. Just go to your search engine and type m/h wiring. that should get you to there web sight .