[CDN2PLS2]

That 105 wasn't Blue though.

['ol Pinion head]

Mike, the pic you put up of Lucerne blue Judge displayed at '93 (Indy) GTOAA Nats, & later owned by Mike Wilkenson PA, is now lining up to be UNOFFICIALLY the 3rd '71 Judge hardtop built out of the Pontiac plant.

Cardinal Red M22 P1000xx Engineering car built off pilot production June '70 body
Canyon Copper/sienna M22 P100105 shipped to Canada
Lucerne Blue/blue M22 P10011x 1st known lucerne blue Judge (Atlantic City show car)

Other lucerne blue/blue M22 show cars are known to exist but VIN after P100540

Anyone know of any Pontiac plant '71 Judges built between between P10011x & P100540?

[muscle_collector]

roger, isnt mine like 100525???? going off of memory. i know i gave you the info on it years ago.

['ol Pinion head]

Gary, it's a little later. don't think its wise to put up the exact vin

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Judge273

Some guys on here have early first rounders. I heard this one was one if not first?



"Lucerne Blue 1971 Judge hardtop. This was our Picture of The Week for 5/11/03. This is actually the first Judge that Pontiac built for 1971, it was a show car. Owner has it documented on the build sheet. It's got a blue interior and an 4-speed manual M-22 transmission. It's been featured in recent editions of Pontiac Enthusiast Magazine and and High Performance Pontiac magazine."

Gorgeous Judge! Thanks for posting it here, Mike.

Everyone - please take special note of the front and rear ride heights - THAT'S THE PERFECT STANCE, FOLKS! I hate the 4X4 look . . . most sit WAY too high in the rear!

[Judge273]

You're right Lloyd, that is a great stance! Even though its not the first it was a documented show car.

I can imagine that sold a few of the first ones in 71 and the economy killed the Judge program later that year. 71 had wage and price freezes, insurance costs increases...

Its a wonder muscle cars sold at all, but 71 remains one of the nicer designed products. IMHO

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Judge273

You're right Lloyd, that is a great stance!

And - not only does that stance look right, it also assists with GM's famous (or infamous) rocker panel "flush-and-dry" system to work properly!

Google search "flush and dry" for more info . . .

[keith k]

Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX

Gorgeous Judge! Thanks for posting it here, Mike.

Everyone - please take special note of the front and rear ride heights - THAT'S THE PERFECT STANCE, FOLKS! I hate the 4X4 look . . . most sit WAY too high in the rear!

I know the service manual ride height specs say they were supposed to be a bit "tail down". But to me the nose on this one still looks about a half inch too high. Different strokes, I guess...

[Todd Kozak]

Actually, all 71 Judges were equipped with UPC Y96, code 621 Ride and Handling Package, which gave the heavy duty springs and shocks. Ride height with heavy duty springs was a full inch higher than regular suspension and dead even as measured at ends of rocker panels, not low in rear like regular suspension.Yes, the Blue Judges are very pretty... can you guys focus on task, please?

[Todd Kozak]

Who has the doc's on the Cardinal Red 1000xx car?

[The Boss]

Wankers - The Taskmaster!

Were does the green one fall Todd?

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by jimwankers

Actually, all 71 Judges were equipped with UPC Y96, code 621 Ride and Handling Package, which gave the heavy duty springs and shocks. Ride height with heavy duty springs was a full inch higher than regular suspension and dead even as measured at ends of rocker panels, not low in rear like regular suspension.Yes, the Blue Judges are very pretty... can you guys focus on task, please?

My apologies for off-topic posts, Todd.

And - you're correct about the HD spring ride heights being higher, and even F-R. I still prefer the slight tail-down appearance, though.

[Todd Kozak]

The Green One is the prettiest by far! It sits level too!

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by jimwankers

The Green One is the prettiest by far! It sits level too!

Which one is that, Todd? Can you link to a pic?

TIA, my friend!

[Todd Kozak]

Lloyd, I don't have any pictures of the car to post but there are threads on here that have pics of my Tropical Lime car.

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by jimwankers

Lloyd, I don't have any pictures of the car to post but there are threads on here that have pics of my Tropical Lime car.

OK Todd, I'll poke around. Thanks!

[Judge273]

This one?

[Lloyd-TX]

Originally Posted by Judge273

This one?

Ooh, me likey, Mikey!

[The Boss]

Tease!

[muscle_collector]

the way the sun is hitting that one, i cant tell if it is limekist or tropical lime. looks more like limekist to me.