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just picked up and abandoned project is there a code to see if its a castillian bronze vs canyon copper on the data tag. im going to send for phs, but it is a 33 car and it seems to have been repainted in original hue. just not familiar enough with the colors. its nothing crazy 350 2 bl s speed but its a pretty nice start. pics soon and it maybe available. I have been chasing it for a few months and it found me today. THat being saod i have about 6 projects infront like most of us haha
thanks in advance
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As long as original trim tag is there, ck the number next to PNT for original color.
59 is Aztec gold 62 is Canyon copper 67 is Castillian bronze Might also look at the Body build week on the trim tag, '71 to '71 1/2 style production changed over at all assembly plants around 03C. Some 71 1/2's may have 03B built body's. Original 71 1/2 GT-37's will not have emblem holes for "GT-37" below the pot metal PONTIAC emblem on each fender. Another running change with GT-37's, cars originally built with standard (black plastic buckle) seat belts, after aproc Christmas of '70 did not get a front seat setbelt retractor on the passenger side. IF the car was originally optioned w/ custom seatbelts, then there will be a retractor.
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Thank you it’s a 62 copper car
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Do you have the PHS for the GT 37?
Car looks great please post.
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Rich Johns Owner/Operator of Pure Stock Auto Restorations Inc. www.purestockauto.com 1969 GTO Judge Ram Air IV M21 4 speed 3:90 1970 GTO Judge Ram Air III M21 4 speed 3:90 Oshawa Built 1970 GSX Stage 1 M21 4 Speed 3.64 # 67 of 678 Original Paint 1970 GSX Stage 1 Auto 3.64 # 603 of 678 12.44@109.73 mph 2011 Buick GS Nats Pure Stock, 12.71@110.64 mph PSMCDR 2011 1970 GS Stage 1 Convertible Auto 3:64 12.71@109.15 mph PSMCDR 2009 1970 GS 455 M21 4 Speed 3.42 1987 GN Astro Roof |
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Haven’t sent for it but 350 2bl 2 speed
I believe it was ivory interior because it looks Like the door panels have been replaced but that doesn’t explain the black vinyl roof Unless that was also changed It has a sears and roebuck style ac unit too Ps Manual drums It ain’t fancy but I kinda dig it
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1969 carousel red firebird 455, richmond 5 speed 1964 540 gto 1971 lemans sport convertible 1972 Maverick under slow construction Last edited by mysticmissle; 07-30-2022 at 04:32 PM. |
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On your interior, originally, your car's seats were Sandalwood vinyl. Same color was used on door panels, windlace, then a slighty darker hue of sandalwood on the molded dash. The black front bench you have was done in a pattern very similar to that of a '71 235 series LeMans/ more ribs than were used on the 233 series bench. I picked up an original of that style 71 LeMans black vinyl split bench. Desiring to save a LOT of $$$, it would not be hard to leave the interior black. I've been swapping a base '72 LeMans 400 Coupe over to black interior, as i cant go to the mountain top, restoration wise, just waaaay too costley. The base trim level '72 LeMans 2 door Coupes & hardtops used the same pattern door panels & basic seat patterns as the '71 T-37/GT-37. Only difference on the door panels is '71 233's do not have the small '72 LeMans or (GTO) emblems.
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Would love to see the PHS if you get it.
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The cowl tag shows no vinyl top. ![]()
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Phs is in. Can anyone explain the vinyl trim option? Is it the stripes like in the picture?
Most likely this will be available for purchase. I just have to figure a value. If anyone would like to help place a fair value I would appreciate it.
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PHS doesn't show it as a GT-37?
I'd say the vinyl trim is for a stripe decal, not sure if like the Judge stripe though. ![]()
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Vinyl trim option @ $27.38 is for the T-37 specific additional cost vinyl seats.
From my experience, ton easier & less costly to replicate the correct upholstery in vinyl, than having the standard parody cloth/vinyl bench seat replicated. The 3 color reflective '70-71 Judge stripes were not factory installed on non 71 Judges. There was an D98 appearance stripe option available. It was also relatively cheap in 1971 dollars. Both as an original option & also avail as a dealer installed option. The D98 appearance stripe consisted of an either black/red or white/red thin eyebrow style stripe depending on the '71 2 door A-body's original color. Over the years I've had two '71 Pontiac A-body 2doors, that were not GT-37's, that had the optional thin eyebrow style D98 stripes. Both were originally built well after the change from thin eyebrow stripes to the sword stripe aprox 03C on the GT-37's.
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Jack Peters has a 71 T-37 I believe.
Can't remember if his had any stripes. He did have the vinyl trim on the PHS. This PHS looks like it has a 3/12/71 shipped date. mysticmissle, can you read who the dealer is and the dealer numbers? ![]()
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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its a rhode island dealer, most likely the car has never been to far from where it is now. Regine Pontiac smith street Providence RI. I think this is now Fiore GMC as it used to be Fiore Pontiac if i recall.
So it is a t-37 based on the body code. There is no line item for stripes but it would have had them because it was a t-37? And the vinyl trim is for cheap seats that it does not have anymore because the interior was changed to black? would it have had dog dishes? it looks like 3-7-71 shipped date, but it is very fuzzy. ""date of note is 3-12-71"" not sure what that means. ''date of interest 4-1-1971" that means its an april fools car lol my bday is 4-3 maybe this car is for me.
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1969 carousel red firebird 455, richmond 5 speed 1964 540 gto 1971 lemans sport convertible 1972 Maverick under slow construction Last edited by mysticmissle; 08-05-2022 at 02:08 PM. |
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v8 '71 T-37 2 door hardtop, original poverty cap car. Over the years, even decades ago, when I was compiling the GT-37 Survey, ran across very very few Framingham plant builds. Ton more T's were built out of Fremont & Pontiac plant. The original poverty cap equipped mid to late '71 t-37's I've documented came with the "Pontiac-Pontiac" style caps, same as used on '70-71 Firebirds.
Link to copy of '71 T-37 interior illustrations & trim codes thanks to UPC- WU2's website. http://www.gt-37.org/gallery/picture...14/category/52
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I thought that the note date may be when the dealer started paying Pontiac/GM for the car being on their lot. Same with the interest date. ![]()
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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That’s interesting was the Framingham plant building other
Models vs base less expensive models?
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They built all A-bodies there.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Seats look like the optional vinyl interior in my T-37. One of the 9 options.
Will reread and see if I can help. No stripes. Just checked. Not a T-37 optional interior. Only 5 or so ribs on mine. Larger flat in the middle. My car was built in April in Fremont. MSRP states Le Mans T-37. I understand earlier ones did not say Le Mans T-37. Corrections welcome.
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JLP Last edited by Jack Peters; 08-06-2022 at 12:46 AM. |
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