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Old 11-15-2015, 01:52 PM
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Default Better head for nitrous

Would my 340cfm e heads work well on a 535 with heavy nitrous or should I get a different head?

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Old 11-15-2015, 04:17 PM
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:57 PM
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Tom I'm trying to get in the mid 4's in the 1/8.(4.70-4.50) I don't have the 535 yet but I have the heads on a 474 right now.

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Old 11-16-2015, 12:53 PM
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Tom I'm trying to get in the mid 4's in the 1/8.(4.70-4.50) I don't have the 535 yet but I have the heads on a 474 right now.
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Jeff can give you some good advice for sure.

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Sorry for the late reply the car with me in it is 2701.It's a stock suspension 85 mustang with a powerglide transmission 3:90 rear 28 inch tall tire

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Lots a variables affect your final results. But I think 340 cfm is going to make your goal hard to reach. You can't just keep jetting the nitrous bigger and keep making gains. You will find the heads will choke and determine a practical ceiling. You'll likely need something over 400 cfm, and there are choices now that go significantly beyond that.

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Old 11-20-2015, 01:49 AM
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Thanks Elarson.I talked to the guy at EIC motorsports and he told me the same.Time to upgrade.Thanks for the replies.

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I'll sell you a set of EIC motorsports 400+ cfm E-heads

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Old 11-21-2015, 11:17 PM
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I have found after running E-Heads and Tiger Heads with heavy N20 loads of up to 600 HP, that the Tiger heads lasted longer between head gasket failures. The E-heads are just so light, thin and have so much water jacket that they eventually "hump-up" and fail between the center cylinders where the 2 exhaust valves reside. We ran copper gaskets with o-rings and steel step washers at each head stud. We could get 10-15 passes out of them and then the heads had to come off and be resealed. That was at 1350 net HP. The Tiger heads with the same tune-up would go 20-25 passes and then have the same problem. But that was at 1500 net HP. The e-heads were 370 CFM and the Tigers 425 CFM. The Tigers made 100-110 more HP NA than the E-heads we were using. A couple of additional factors. We didn't run Cometic gaskets, they might help. We also ran a wet deck, a dry deck might help. Finally, the copper alloy insert Calvin Hill markets and installs would certainly help either head hold a gasket with big N2o use. If I had it to do all over today, I would take a close look at the Ram Air V offerings out there. Getting those damn center exhaust valves separated for nitrous or supercharged applications would have to help the gasket situation. My proof of that is the fact we are still running the very first set of copper gaskets on our Ram Air V based nitro engine after 4 years.

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