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Old 10-29-2020, 08:43 AM
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Default Smith Racecraft sub-frames

Just wondering if many guys are running them. How were they to install

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Old 10-29-2020, 10:28 AM
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Bolts right in if you car isn’t bent.

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Ours went right in.Just had to trim the frame connector up front.

Got a smoking deal on it,so even if it was a bitch,it would have been worth it.

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Ours went right in.Just had to trim the frame connector up front.

Got a smoking deal on it,so even if it was a bitch,it would have been worth it.
Any idea on weight savings?

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Brian if you already have tubular control arms, rack, etc. it's about 80lbs. I just had this conversation with Jeff Kinsler on Friday. Lol

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Brian if you already have tubular control arms, rack, etc. it's about 80lbs. I just had this conversation with Jeff Kinsler on Friday. Lol
Cool thx!
Wish someone made a 2nd gen rad support like you guys have. That'd knockoff more weight


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Old 11-02-2020, 08:41 AM
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Any idea on weight savings?
With just the Smith frame,no control arms,I can pick it up and carry it no problem.

When my bud and I put the stock frame,with control arms in my truck,we could barely lift it.

We are currently still looking for our nuts in his driveway.

Worth the investment in my opinion.

We got ours from Jeff Mill,Mills588,over on Yellowbullet.He really took care of us.

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Old 11-02-2020, 11:48 PM
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With just the Smith frame,no control arms,I can pick it up and carry it no problem.

When my bud and I put the stock frame,with control arms in my truck,we could barely lift it.

We are currently still looking for our nuts in his driveway.

Worth the investment in my opinion.

We got ours from Jeff Mill,Mills588,over on Yellowbullet.He really took care of us.
U got any pics of the subframe installed you can share?

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With just the Smith frame,no control arms,I can pick it up and carry it no problem.

When my bud and I put the stock frame,with control arms in my truck,we could barely lift it.

We are currently still looking for our nuts in his driveway.

Worth the investment in my opinion.

We got ours from Jeff Mill,Mills588,over on Yellowbullet.He really took care of us.
Do you have Jeff’s phone number?

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Old 11-03-2020, 01:56 PM
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Looks like that would get rid of a lot of weight!

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Do these s/f require motor plates?

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Old 11-05-2020, 09:01 AM
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Do these s/f require motor plates?
Yes,and a rack.

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Old 01-03-2021, 01:43 PM
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Mine bare weighs 65lbs. No idea what a stock 2nd gen bare frame weighs but im sure it's well over 65lbs
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Mine bare weighs 65lbs. No idea what a stock 2nd gen bare frame weighs but im sure it's well over 65lbs
How much did it set you back?

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Old 01-03-2021, 09:25 PM
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How much did it set you back?
Pricing is on their site. Depends on the options but imo it's very reasonable.

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Didn't he do one for Bruce's old car?
Maybe...Not 100% sure Mike. If he did one, it was one off and before he started producing them for the masses.

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Default Thoughts on fitment in first gen with Pontiac power?

Folks - first time commenting in here. I wanted to check if anyone has used the smith racecraft front end in a 67-69 with a Pontiac power plant? Did you fab your own motor plates? Any issues?

Thanks!

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Folks - first time commenting in here. I wanted to check if anyone has used the smith racecraft front end in a 67-69 with a Pontiac power plant? Did you fab your own motor plates? Any issues?

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I am in the process of doing this right now. I bought their BBC mid plate because I have an aftermarket block with the extra holes. It won't work with a stock block if you want to use all 6 bolts. I used their BBC plate overlayed on the All Pontiac mid plate to match up the mounting holes and trimmed to fit the chassis. I am in the process of making a front plate right now since it will be a turbo setup with front facing headers (probably). For rear facing headers there are options from All Pontiac.

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The sub-frame really opens things up for headers.
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Surprised you got it so quickly.

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