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#21
11-01-2010, 06:41 PM
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Years ago,my neighbor,who deals in Camaros sold a pace car convert to someone up north.
In transit the car got damaged so was taken to a body shop in new owners locale,where they discovered it stated life as a 6 cyl PG car. My neighbor had a bill of sale from the guy who sold it to him stating it was an SS pace car.Lawsuits began to fly and my neighbor was cleared because of the previous owners bill of sale it was determined he was the one that perpetrated the fraud.Im told but cant substantiate the guy spent time in pokey.
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#22
11-01-2010, 07:38 PM
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[QUOTE=ramair3formula;4140101]If you click on his feedback, a picture of a 69 trans am is present. Once blown up, it's a freshly painted car with the hood on a fender stand. I guess that's where the tags and motor went? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't have two cars with the same vin, so what's the point?[/
If somebody bought this car to restore there would be no way to get it titled with the original VIN number, most if not all States would issue a State ID number. I really don't think it would be worth the hassle or the money, time and effort to bother with this body. Now if I owned the rebodied car, I would be bidding my ass off. Hes probably going to end up paying a lot of money just to get that VIN thats on the firewall.
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#23
11-01-2010, 07:47 PM
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If it is one of the nine it should be fairly easy to identify? Deluxe blue interior, power brakes, non-air automatic car. Looks as though it was recently put together, new bolts on the front suspension.
Were the TA stripes vinyl or painted on? These appear to be painted, with the rust bubbling through. |
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#24
11-01-2010, 07:59 PM
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#25
11-01-2010, 09:21 PM
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I like the sellers very honest answer about where the original motor and trans are...."they're in the rebodied one".
 He also answers that the car won't be given away...he'll cut it up first. Maybe that should have been done by someone before ebaying it!! Mentions that he was going to restore this one...he has a donor car for it. I wonder if that's another TA donor for the TA donor, or.......  I know this is a can of worms, but what if this car had been advertised with the cowl and firewall cut out completely.... |
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#26
11-01-2010, 09:26 PM
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Gentlemen its time to oil up the keyboards and find that VIN.
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#27
11-01-2010, 09:29 PM
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ALL TAs had painted stripes ALL TAs had PDB question is column shift or floor shift that narrows it down even more. It looks like its floorshift but my eyes arent the best.
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#28
11-01-2010, 09:39 PM
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We have the VIN's - it's just down to which one. Most of them were built late so the Formula wheel doesn't help.
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#29
11-01-2010, 09:52 PM
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There were 3 of the 9 with blue deluxe interior.
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#30
11-01-2010, 09:55 PM
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Let me guess who you just got off the phone with - and it's not the guy selling it!
I wasn't going to bother him, figured he would chime in if he wanted to - I'm sure he knows the car.
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#31
11-01-2010, 09:57 PM
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Does Barrett-Jackson a few years back mean anything to you?
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#32
11-01-2010, 10:14 PM
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Weird
If someone were going to spend most likely significant $$ for a IV drivetrain and tags from a '69 T/A why on earth would they not spend a few more $$ and get the entire original shell? Leaving an original wing behind just goes against all logic.
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#33
11-01-2010, 10:38 PM
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There is no way that the bidding is real. It is not worth anything except to the person that owns the rebodied car. You could not even get a new vin from state without the State Patrol crawling all over it and asking questions.
I would bet that this was offered to the owner of the vin and drivetrain for large money and turned down, thus this Ebay ad is being used as a type of extortion. His buddies bid it up and current Vin owner or whoever switched the vin gets real nervous. I’m not even sure if it is legal to sell a car that the vin plate and title are missing? A legitimate junkyard would not touch it. (Now the real question is who in the world did this and left the original car complete??) |
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#34
11-01-2010, 10:42 PM
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? Column shift car.
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#35
11-01-2010, 10:51 PM
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what kills me is that he rebodied a car and didn't take ALL of the vin's. he says he can prove it's the car by the cowl 'hidden vin'; why was it left behind? the 'new' t/a has it's real hidden vin still there, huh?
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#36
11-01-2010, 11:10 PM
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Last edited by rupp; 11-01-2010 at 11:15 PM. |
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#37
11-01-2010, 11:47 PM
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What they've done is just so crazy though. Rebody if you must, but you don't leave the rest of the original body hanging around. Especially not with the cowl VIN intact.
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#38
11-02-2010, 12:48 AM
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#39
11-02-2010, 01:15 AM
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All you need is a bill of sale and put a bond on the car. |
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#40
11-02-2010, 04:39 AM
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Is the drivers side rear window tinted?? |
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