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#1
02-22-2004, 10:25 AM
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What engines were available with the SJ option from 68-70? Was the SJ option a option in all those years? I know the 428 was only made from 67-69 and I am wondering if the SJ option was for the 428. Any info to help me along would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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02-22-2004, 10:25 AM
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What engines were available with the SJ option from 68-70? Was the SJ option a option in all those years? I know the 428 was only made from 67-69 and I am wondering if the SJ option was for the 428. Any info to help me along would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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02-22-2004, 10:32 AM
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I'd already like to apologize for my spelling of the Gran, certainly should of been Grand. I just read the replys to ccass looking for emblem info and I don't want any tongue lashings!!! Hope my apologies are accepted. Thanks, John.
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02-22-2004, 12:15 PM
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no offense taken here john. you were just offering input which is the purpose of the board.
it's not a vocabulary lesson I don't believe the SJ option obligated you to any specific engine. I have seen jim mattison's PHS paperwork for a 72 SSJ with a 400. so my .02 400 or 428 69 400 or 455 70-2 others correct me if I'm in error |
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02-22-2004, 03:22 PM
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I'm trying to be more specific on the years and I probably should not of included 1970. I was specifically wondering if the SJ option directly related to a 428 engine option in 1968 and 1969. I do not own a Grand Prix but I know of one in a junkyard and didn't check out the engine while I was there. But I do remember it being a SJ. I own a 68 GTO and would like to put a 428 in it and was wondering if I needed to return to this yard and check out the GP further. Any more help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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#6
02-22-2004, 03:45 PM
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certainly the odds are much greater that it's a 400 but it's worth checking the codes on the front of the engine. you might get lucky.
get the code and the head casting and someone can identify it for you at least reach behind the RH head and feel for a 'transfer lug' on the top of the block. a 400 will be flat and a 428 should have the pyramid |
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02-22-2004, 05:08 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Looks like I'll try to go back out to the yard and check it out. I guess any chance of finding a 428 is better than no chance at all. Thanks again, John.
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02-22-2004, 09:07 PM
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hunting for the elusive 428 is good sport. I think it is fair to say a 69 SJ GP would be more likely to have a 428 than a J. let us know how it works out.
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#9
02-22-2004, 10:28 PM
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"SJ" was an option on the GP from 69 to 80???, but the years in question here are 69-72 (no "SJ" in 68). 69 "SJ" came with a 428 (std or HO), and for 1970-1972, the "SJ" option included the 455 engine. The 69 "J" model could also be ordered with a 428, and the "J" model for 70-72 could have been ordered with the 455. Confused? Now the SSJ is a whole different story. That Hurst model could be had from 1970-1972 and came with both the 400 & 455. I have had one of each (my old 72 Hurst SSJ had a 455, and my current original 71 SSJ has the 400). Hope this clear things up a bit....
Summary 69 SJ=428 as the standard engine 69 J=400 or 428 70 SSJ=400 or 455 70 SJ=455 engine standard 70 J=400 or 455 71 SSJ=400 or 455 71 SJ=455 standard engine 71 J=400 or 455 72 SSJ=400 or 455 72 SJ=455 engine standard 72 J=400 or 455 Screwy, isn't it? 1970 SSJ: 272 1971 SSJ: 157 1972 SSJ: 60 or 350 or somewhere in between
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02-23-2004, 06:57 PM
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Hey thanks for the clarification. Nice job on the facts! Now I know I'm going back to the yard. Thanks again, John.
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#11
02-25-2004, 02:51 PM
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For clarification on the SSJ being available with both a 400 and 455, the SSJ was based off of a model J Grand Prix because the paint scheme was more compatible than the SJ. I came across this information in an article in HPP. The SJ in 70-72 at least came with a 455 as standard equipment.
1976 Bonneville 2dr under construction from ground up.
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02-25-2004, 03:21 PM
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For even further clarification, the SSJ was available in 1970 starting as a "J" or "SJ", and the 71-72 SSJ was available only on the "J" series as Lawman described. The 71-72 SSJ required that the car start life as a "J" due to a conflict with the "SJ's" pinstriping which would have been applied prior to it being shipped to Hurst. That's why the SSJ ended up with either engine.
1970 SSJ: 272 1971 SSJ: 157 1972 SSJ: 60 or 350 or somewhere in between
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