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Anyone running a SERPENTINE CONVERSION
for there GTO? If so how do you like it?
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Bring back my 67 GTO: Shes ALIVE as of 2-19-13 previously owned 78 Firebird 67 Nova 64 Nova |
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Anyone running a SERPENTINE CONVERSION
for there GTO? If so how do you like it?
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Bring back my 67 GTO: Shes ALIVE as of 2-19-13 previously owned 78 Firebird 67 Nova 64 Nova |
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Talk to Goathead, he has one on his nice 65 GTO. I plan on buying a setup for my 66 in the near future.
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I've got a March system on my '69 GP, which is pretty much the same as a GTO, except for the huge room between the rad & pulleys. Here's a shot:
I like it. Installation was a breeze. Everything just bolted right up. The only thing you'll need to watch is the bolts. Don't take 'em out of the bags until you need 'em. Many are different lengths but only by a few thou. If you get 'em mixed up, you'll be measuring them with a mic.
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Kerry, thats a pretty nice setup you have there. I am looking to do that to my T/A. How much did that setup run you? I have heard they are pretty expensive. I haven't really researched them yet.
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I'm the guy that installed the system on Goathead's '65! It is the FULL March system, with Sanden A/C compressor.
My best advice is to use your common sense when installing it. I believe the problem lies in the differences between all the different water pump manufacturers. That is, the kit will include spacers that are machined to exact thicknesses, so that all the brackets will be aligned. Well, unless you have the EXACT waterpump that March used to design the system, you may need slightly longer or shorter spacers at certain bolt holes. We had to shorten some, and use washers to shim others, in order to get it all to line up. I also had to re-notch one bracket that fits to the passenger side head, for the A/C compressor. It did not properly fit around the lip of the valve cover. It looks good, and works well, though.
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'73 T/A (clone). Low budget stock headed 8.3:1 455, 222/242 116lsa .443/.435 cam. FAST Sportsman EFI, 315rwhp/385rwtq on 87 octane. 13.12 @103.2, 1.91 60'. '67 Firebird [sold], ; 11.27 @ 119.61, 7.167 @ 96.07, with UD 280/280 (108LSA/ 109 ICL)solid cam. [1.537, 7.233 @93.61, 11.46 @ 115.4 w/ old UD 288/296 108 hydraulic cam] Feb '05 HPP, home-ported "16" D-ports, dished pistons (pump gas only), 3.42 gears, 275/60 DR's, 750DP, T2, full exhaust |
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Click on my link and go under G machine to see the same system with A/C.
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"resurfacing Pa highways 2 long black strips at a time" 78 Olds Cutlass Drag car PONTIAC powered with 440 (destroked 455), th400, 12bolt with spool 4.10z Best to date 10.00@130.92 mph at 3250# 79 Grand Prix, will be new home for the 440 Goal 9.75z@135mph at 2900# 83 Malibu Wagon UUV Crate 350, Custom T5, 8.5 with Auburn posi 3.73z Making it the Ultimate Utility Vehicle Go, tow and show (not so much show, yet) |
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I have the full March setup (Sanden A/C, P/S) on my 70 GTO. Works fine with a Flowcooler water pump. I like the way it cleaned up the front of the engine. Current project....I had March send me a spare crank pulley from this setup and I am measuring how much offset there will have to be for a centrifugal supercharger drive (50mm cog type, 81 tooth) to clear. Im going to have the March pulley duplicated with the blower drive added on so its a single piece. ASP can do this.
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I was just looking at March's web site and the Pontiac serpentine system is $1033 for the one with A/C. Really pricey. I'll spend the money on something to make it run faster.
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Anyone think about the Rodney Red serp system? I think they are alot cheeper than the March system.
Mike |
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Bandit:
Yep, they're not cheap but my experience was good--as far as fit is concerned. I think the $1,033 is for the A/C system. I recall paying around $1,000 CAD for the non-A/C system. Regarding whether the kit fits with various water pumps, I can't say but I know if fit fine with the Milodon unit I've got.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LouisianaGuy:
Anyone think about the Rodney Red serp system? I think they are alot cheeper than the March system. Mike <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I'm expecting delivery of a Rodney Red system any day now. I have no a/c. cost was aroun 390 w/shipping. They use an off the shelf tensioner. There are a few folks on here that already have one installed. Once it arrives and I get it installed I'll post pics and feedback on installation.
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67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 TH400 74cc KRE d-ports piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.50 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s |
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Tom McQueen,
I will look forward to getting it once it is made! Tom V.
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This was one of the early ones that Lee was talking about. Works great one the bug's were worked out...
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Thanks for the replies. I am thinking about going this route.
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Bring back my 67 GTO: Shes ALIVE as of 2-19-13 previously owned 78 Firebird 67 Nova 64 Nova |
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WOOO HOOO!!!! Received my serpentine kit from Rodney Red. Hope to get it installed this weekend. I'll post some pics and feedback when I do. Took a while to get this since they only make a few at a time. It's currently only a side item. But they hope to start making more soon.
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67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 TH400 74cc KRE d-ports piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.50 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s |
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Hey 67 you got the kit on yet? get them pics up would like to see how the rodney kit looks.
Mike |
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Now that christmas has passed I hope to have pics up by Monday ...
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67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 TH400 74cc KRE d-ports piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.50 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s |
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Mark,
Have you had an opportunity to put on that serpentine belt system? I would like to see what it looks like on and to see if you had any problems. I bought one too and I am preparing to put it on. Fast 82
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Fast 82 G & G Perfromance Parts (937)307-6586 |
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I looked at Rodney Reds website and I can't find anything about pulley systems???
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