Pontiac - Street No question too basic here!

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-10-2001, 07:21 AM
66Bronz 66Bronz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: NJ, (The Promised Land)
Posts: 38
Default

Hi everybody,
I don't know what to do about the lead for the electric choke on a Holley I'm putting on a 66 389. The ignition wires use a terminal plug into the ignition switch & I'm supposed to hook the lead up there? How exactly? Theres just male plugends coming from the switch- what do I do, splice into the wire before the plug? That doesn't sound right. Run it along the male plug & slide into the terminal? I would appreciate any help!

.................................................. ........
If I wasn't already crazy, I'd be going nuts

  #2  
Old 05-10-2001, 07:21 AM
66Bronz 66Bronz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: NJ, (The Promised Land)
Posts: 38
Default

Hi everybody,
I don't know what to do about the lead for the electric choke on a Holley I'm putting on a 66 389. The ignition wires use a terminal plug into the ignition switch & I'm supposed to hook the lead up there? How exactly? Theres just male plugends coming from the switch- what do I do, splice into the wire before the plug? That doesn't sound right. Run it along the male plug & slide into the terminal? I would appreciate any help!

.................................................. ........
If I wasn't already crazy, I'd be going nuts

  #3  
Old 05-10-2001, 04:33 PM
Will Will is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Pugetopolis
Posts: 5,297
Default

Just find any wire in the engine compartment wiring harness that has +12V when the ignition switch is on, and no voltage when it's off and splice into it. Alternately, you can find an open terminal in the fuseblock that also goes live with the ignition switch and run the wire from there.

__________________
----------------------------
'72 Formula 400 Lucerne Blue, Blue Deluxe interior - My first car!
'73 Firebird 350/4-speed Black on Black, mix & match.
  #4  
Old 05-10-2001, 05:49 PM
66Bronz 66Bronz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: NJ, (The Promised Land)
Posts: 38
Default

Ahhhh, so! I guess I freaked when I saw the terminal.

Thanks Will. Good luck with your new engine.

  #5  
Old 05-11-2001, 12:04 AM
Richard Ohran Richard Ohran is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 201
Default

I was under the impression that the choke was designed to be connected to the armature output of the alternator. The armature output has the characteristic that it only outputs voltage if the engine is actually running-- unlike the ignition switch which supplies voltage whenever the key is turned regardless of whether the engine is running or not. The effect is not significantly different when the engine is started immediately after turning the key on. However, if someone turns the key on for a significant period of time before actually trying to start the engine, they may find that the choke function has been released without the engine actually running.

Richard/Vegas

__________________
Richard in Provo, UT

If you're not the lead dog, the scenery never changes.
  #6  
Old 05-11-2001, 08:00 AM
66Bronz 66Bronz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: NJ, (The Promised Land)
Posts: 38
Default

The Holley tech support recommended connecting to an "ignition hot source only". But, have you tried the alt? It sounds sensible, but I've never seen a carb hooked into an alternator. I also have no experience with an electric choke... Thanks!!

  #7  
Old 05-11-2001, 10:45 AM
george kujanski's Avatar
george kujanski george kujanski is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: palatine, il. USA
Posts: 8,056
Default

The proper term for the alternator connection is the stator connection. Ford used to use a stator tap for their electric choke. The difference is that the stator tap supplies approx 8 volts AC when the engine is running whereas the ignition obviously supplies 12.6 volts ignition on and about 14 volts running. Don't mix the two chokes; make sure you have the right one for the connection you are using.
Regards, George

__________________
"...out to my ol'55, I pulled away slowly, feeling so holy, god knows i was feeling alive"....written by Tom Wait from the Eagles' Live From The Forum
  #8  
Old 05-11-2001, 11:23 PM
Richard Ohran Richard Ohran is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 201
Default

That's right ... it is called the stator ... couldn't remember the term. And, it was a Ford schematic I was looking at when I saw that. Other make alternators probably don't have the stator connection, and you wouldn't want to use the alternator battery connection because then it would be on all the time. Sounds like your carburator is set up to go to the ignition switched 12 volts. So, the original advice was correct. Ignore everything I said.

Richard/Vegas

[This message has been edited by Richard Ohran (edited 05-11-2001).]

__________________
Richard in Provo, UT

If you're not the lead dog, the scenery never changes.
  #9  
Old 05-12-2001, 10:01 AM
66Bronz 66Bronz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: NJ, (The Promised Land)
Posts: 38
Default

Thanks guys, I think I'll splice into the ignition wire- the ACC wire. I continue to learn so much from this board!

  #10  
Old 05-12-2001, 06:16 PM
Skip Fix's Avatar
Skip Fix Skip Fix is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Katy,TX USA
Posts: 21,708
Default

Alot of the 80s GM cars had them spliced through an oil pressure switch so the choke would not pull off if you had just left the ky turned on.Kind of hard to do that way.

I've tapped into the blower/horn relay power feed as it is on the same side of the engine as the choke.

__________________
Skip Fix
1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever!
1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand
1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project
2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune [email protected]
1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project
1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs
1964 Corvette Coupe 327 4 speed
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:11 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017