Pontiac - Street No question too basic here!

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-03-2005, 02:47 PM
buckeyeinwy buckeyeinwy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4
Default

I have purchased a rebuilt '66 389 that has been painted the wrong color (an odd blue??). I want to repaint this engine in the correct Pontiac '66 color in a manner that will provide longevity and accuracy. My question is this, any ideas on how to remove the current paint job without disassembling the engine. Would sandblasting be acceptable if I completely seal the ports, openings, etc? Sandblasting makes me nervous obviously. Painting over the existing color brings to mind peeling and flaking. Any experience or suggestion out there? Also, what has been your best experience with paint brands? Eastwood, VHT? Thanks and look forward to your replies....

  #2  
Old 04-03-2005, 02:47 PM
buckeyeinwy buckeyeinwy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4
Default

I have purchased a rebuilt '66 389 that has been painted the wrong color (an odd blue??). I want to repaint this engine in the correct Pontiac '66 color in a manner that will provide longevity and accuracy. My question is this, any ideas on how to remove the current paint job without disassembling the engine. Would sandblasting be acceptable if I completely seal the ports, openings, etc? Sandblasting makes me nervous obviously. Painting over the existing color brings to mind peeling and flaking. Any experience or suggestion out there? Also, what has been your best experience with paint brands? Eastwood, VHT? Thanks and look forward to your replies....

  #3  
Old 04-03-2005, 03:16 PM
Bob Lawyer Bob Lawyer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 84
Default

I have always just cleaned the heck out of mine with good solvents, then hand sanded (Not sand blasted) and cleaned some more. I generally also wire brush the surfaces to add some roughness to promote paint adhesion. Then, I clean some more until I can rub a white cloth and get no discoloration. Ihave never had any peeling or flaking, although you can expect discoloration around the exhaust ports and heat cross over area. Ihave used both Plasticote and Duplicolor with no discernable differences.

If you have the engine apart have the block, heads, and intake hot tanked at a machine shop and that will do 90% of the cleaning work for you. But you'll still have to follow them up with your own cleaning.

  #4  
Old 04-03-2005, 03:36 PM
MILF MILF is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Lititz, Pennsylvania
Posts: 5
Default

I pressure washed the block first with a nice strong pressure washer. Then I soaked it pretty good with "purple stuff" Purchased a few good wire brushed, both large and small, and they make a really nice parts cleaning brush that comes to a point. Great for the heard to reach areas. A couple of cans of brake cleaner also do wonders for getting the grime in those hard to reach places. That should get you pretty clean. I used a couple of light coats from plasticoat (metallic) and the motor looks great.
Real nice paint.

__________________
DON'T THROW IT OUT.....Put it downstairs
  #5  
Old 04-03-2005, 03:39 PM
Toy4Chris Toy4Chris is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 354
Default

DITTO: You will need a few nice brushed...and alot of elbow grease. Seems like the more you clean, the more comes off, no matter how many times you go through it.
The plasticoat paint worked well for me as well.

Chris

__________________
Save it.....you never know!

1967 Firebird 455 Th400
  #6  
Old 04-03-2005, 05:17 PM
GTOYANKEE1970's Avatar
GTOYANKEE1970 GTOYANKEE1970 is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southern NH USA
Posts: 261
Send a message via AIM to GTOYANKEE1970
Default

If the motor is out of the car, you can pick up a can of aerosol paint stripper at any auto parts store that carries automotive paint supplies, usually most people will use a 1K type paint like spray bombs of Plasticoat or Duplicolor on their engines, it come off very easy, then just rinse well with water and dry. Make sure you wear thick plastic gloves to protect your hands. My guess would be if it isn't covered in oil or grease you should be able to have it completely stripped and dried and ready for paint in a couple of hours.
I like a catalized 2 or 3 part type paint
(paint, hardener, reducer) for my engines. It lasts for ever and always looks fresh.

John

  #7  
Old 04-03-2005, 05:26 PM
Bill H's Avatar
Bill H Bill H is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Concord Ca.
Posts: 653
Default

Here is some engine paint information just in case you need it.

http://fiedlerh.home.att.net/enginecolor.htm

__________________
67 GTO HT
1968 400 Engine YE
TH-400
#13 Heads -J069
Q'Jet .
8.2 Eaton Posi/3:55


__________________
  #8  
Old 04-03-2005, 06:09 PM
buckeyeinwy buckeyeinwy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4
Default

gtoyankee1970, Thanks for your reply. As you mentioned (I failed to), the engine is out of the car. A couple of questions, you mention 1k type paint. What exactly is that and how do I look for that in a paint? You also mention a catalized 2 or 3 part paint, do you have a recommended manufacturer? Thanks in advance...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gtoyankee1970:
If the motor is out of the car, you can pick up a can of aerosol paint stripper at any auto parts store that carries automotive paint supplies, usually most people will use a 1K type paint like spray bombs of Plasticoat or Duplicolor on their engines, it come off very easy, then just rinse well with water and dry. Make sure you wear thick plastic gloves to protect your hands. My guess would be if it isn't covered in oil or grease you should be able to have it completely stripped and dried and ready for paint in a couple of hours.
I like a catalized 2 or 3 part type paint
(paint, hardener, reducer) for my engines. It lasts for ever and always looks fresh.

John </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

  #9  
Old 04-03-2005, 06:10 PM
buckeyeinwy buckeyeinwy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4
Default

Thanks for the replies. I have a much better understanding and feel good about my concern with sandblasting. Thanks again all....

  #10  
Old 04-23-2005, 04:41 PM
jackk jackk is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2
Default

I just ran across your question and noticed you mentioned that the block was an "odd color blue" There is some question as to the correct original color of Pontiac engines around that year. It seems the original color was darker but as it aged it turned to a kind of blue-green color over the years. just thought this might help.

  #11  
Old 04-23-2005, 07:41 PM
captain42082's Avatar
captain42082 captain42082 is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: kentucky
Posts: 300
Default

I hav had good results using oven cleaner for initial cleaning-takes the grease and gunk off pretty well,is cheaper than some of the so called degreasers

  #12  
Old 04-23-2005, 09:37 PM
Mark C.'s Avatar
Mark C. Mark C. is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 818
Default

Painted my 76 bolck with Hirsch Automotive paint. The color was an exact match to the factory paint. I still have the vavle covers that I've never repainted to compare to. I highly recomend the Hirsch paint. Just my .02

__________________
70 Bonneville 455, survivor (Third Owner)
  #13  
Old 04-24-2005, 08:21 AM
Sport71's Avatar
Sport71 Sport71 is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: OH
Posts: 422
Default

I've also heard good things about Hirsch auto paints. But on their web site, they have Pontiac engine colors for 1966-1972 grouped together ("Pontiac Metallic Blue"). The color changed between '70 and '71. Does anyone know if they have the correct light blue for '71 and on?

__________________
1971 GTO 455 H.O. Ram Air
Nordic Silver - Black
  #14  
Old 04-24-2005, 02:47 PM
Department X Department X is offline
Senior Chief
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 287
Default

Last week i had some real nasty heads that had been sitting on my shelf for at least 10 years. They were so nasty you could barely see the springs. I sat them in front of my 2400psi pres washer and good by grime. I then sprayed them with oven cleaner and shot them again ,clean bare metal, who needs a hot tank.

  #15  
Old 04-24-2005, 02:54 PM
Ryche400's Avatar
Ryche400 Ryche400 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Juan, TX (Deep South TX)
Posts: 539
Default

Sorry to jump in on some one else's post, but I have a similar question. Has anyone found out how to prevent the heads from burning the paint off? Every Pontiac engine Ive had has had this problem. It burns or fades close to the exhaust ports.

__________________
  #16  
Old 04-24-2005, 11:08 PM
Jack Gifford's Avatar
Jack Gifford Jack Gifford is offline
formerly 'Pontiac Jack'
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Phelps, NY 14532
Posts: 10,340
Default

A reply on the "exhaust" forum a while back had a recommendation for this. Rather than search for it, I'll repeat what I remember:
Use Eastwood's stainless steel paint on those areas of the heads (on clean bare metal), then a light coating of color over that; touch up with later light coats of color as it discolors.
I've never tried this, but I will soon. I do know from experience that the stainless paint is truly impervious to the heat.

__________________
Anybody else on this planet campaign a M/T hemi Pontiac for eleven seasons?
... or has built a record breaking DOHC hemi four cylinder Pontiac?
... or has driven a couple laps of Nuerburgring with Tri-Power Pontiac power?(back in 1967)
... or has a Pontiac born the same year as Jim Wangers? (1926}
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:05 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017