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Old 01-07-2009, 09:31 PM
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Beem painting my 61 tempest wagon ppg products base clear in black. No heat or sun in michigan. Whats the best products a procedure to remove fine scratches etc. You can actually leave marks by running your fingers accross the panels. I heard black can be a pain and it looks that way. THANKS

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Old 01-07-2009, 09:44 PM
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I use 3M Perfect-IT II Pad Glaze for Dark Cars on a foam pad. Works great to remove compounding scratches and removing swirl marks. $20/bottle but worth it. I just painted tow fenders with PPG Concept (single stage) in black so I know what you're talking about with keeping it clean.

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Old 01-17-2009, 03:27 PM
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Default Swirl Marks

Swirl marks are caused by micro scratches in the paint, either by dust, dirt, or other containments. Swirl marks are impossible to avoid if you ever plan on driving the vehicle. Black is no different than any other color, the swirl marks are just more noticable. They are there on white cars just the same, it's just harded to see them.
The 3M product mentioned will do the job, but so will any other "paint cleaner". A paint cleaner is a non-abrasive cleaner used either by hand or machine. You can get the swirls out by hand if you are patient and are willing to spend some time. If you are comfortable with a buffer, you can use that as well. I guess you're not experienced with a buffer, otherwise you would have used one already. Buffers in the hands of someone without experience and on somewhat new paint, can lead to a ton of new problems. You could hire a good, experienced detailer or painter to show you how to buff. I'm biased, I'm a detailer, so I would recommend a detailer to show you how to buff, not a painter. Detailers do a lot more buffing, and problem solving buffing than painters do, so they may be the best teachers. Also, they would be much more affordable for an hours time. If you're doing it yourself, the first thing to do is to go get a good paint cleaner, do NOT use a cleaner wax combo. 3M, Meguiers, etc.. are good products. Get a bunch of microfiber towels, use ONLY microfiber towels. No diapers or terry cloths. This is important. And follow the instructions. No elbow grease or pushing on the paint, be gentle. Take your time and it should come out nice. Follow up with a few layers of a high quality wax, just wax, no cleaner wax. Avoid waxing in circles, Mr. Miyagi didn't know squat about waxing, circle waxing can cause scratches if the paint is not super clean, they are much more noticable if you wax in circles vs. up and down. Keep the car waxed every season and it should look great. Wax more often if it's outside alot.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:16 PM
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Once you get the swirl marks out use Maguire's Seal and Reseal #7. But apply it in samll areas and remove before it dries. Then wax as you normally would, but use micro fiber towels as Scott suggested.

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