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ORIGINAL KEYS
This is kind of on open question, but I will point to 64-65 for now; Were the original keys that came with our GM cars produced by Briggs&Stratton and have their logo on both keys?
SEEMS LIKE THEY PRODUCED THE LOCK ASSYS. ALSO. bill |
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mine say rochester products division
and your key to greater value
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Good Question
Bill, I recall they said R/P as 65blackplate mentions but the 39,000+ Red 65 showed the Briggs & Stratton keys as in pic below.
Last pic is a pair of R/P keys off the net.
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1) 65 GTO Survivor. 43,440 Original Miles. “Factory” Mayfair Maize Paint with Black Pinstripe, Black Cordova Top, Black Interior, OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Purchased from the Lady that bought it new. Baltimore Built (11A). 2) 66 GTO Survivor. “Factory” Cameo Ivory Paint with Red Pinstripe, Red Interior. OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Tri-Power (OEM Vacuum Linkage), Automatic "YR" code (1759 Produced). Fremont Built (01B), with the Rare 614 Option. Last edited by 60sstuff; 12-04-2012 at 07:44 PM. |
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I still have both sets of the original keys (4) for a 65 GTO: Briggs & Stratton Corporation Milwaukee Wis USA
On the other side it has the GM logo and says: your key to greater value. And i still have the knocks outs 60sstuff pics is a little different from mine: on mine The GM logo side has printed in the knock out section the word knock out and the number is on the other side. Backwards from his. Last edited by Option 382; 12-04-2012 at 07:46 PM. |
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THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE. I SOLD MY CAR IN '95. Spent the next 15 years searching the internet for it and found it 2 1/2 years ago. This time with no original keys. I made sure the replacements I found had the B$S name and logo. Then I started doubting myself so I thought I would check on the forum. THANKS AGAIN bill
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Bill, dug up the originals for both 64s. Briggs and Stratton
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My Briggs & Stratton 66 GTO Keys with the same stamp on both. Looks like A-ABLE
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1) 65 GTO Survivor. 43,440 Original Miles. “Factory” Mayfair Maize Paint with Black Pinstripe, Black Cordova Top, Black Interior, OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Purchased from the Lady that bought it new. Baltimore Built (11A). 2) 66 GTO Survivor. “Factory” Cameo Ivory Paint with Red Pinstripe, Red Interior. OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Tri-Power (OEM Vacuum Linkage), Automatic "YR" code (1759 Produced). Fremont Built (01B), with the Rare 614 Option. |
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maybe it has somthing to do with the assembly plant
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I also have both sets of original keys (knockouts in place, one set is unused) and they are as described here. (On mine the knockout numbers are on the same side as the B&S lettering). K
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'63 LeMans Convertible '63 Grand Prix '65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer '74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 "Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 |
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Not likely; not if all the final assembly plants are receiving material from the same supplier.
K
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'63 LeMans Convertible '63 Grand Prix '65 GTO - original, unrestored, Dad was original owner, 5000 original mile Royal Pontiac factory racer '74 Chevelle - original owner, 9.85 @ 136 mph besthttp://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/ My Pontiac Story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 "Intro from an old Assembly Plant Guy":http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 |
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one set i have the knock outs are still in place with the key code # are rochester products division keys
and i checked the other set that i have and they are briggs and stratton keys all four keys are in about the same condition as far as wear
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rochester. . 67
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ROCHESTER PRODUCTS DIV. KEYS----1964 KNOCK-OUTS STILL IN PLACE
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CORRECT KEYS AND LOCK ASSYS. NOS
JUST A SIDE BAR:
This is a seller on EBAY who has A LOT of NOS keys and keys plus locks for our Pontiacs, just in case someone is looking for the CORRECT ASSYS. bill thomas-j-sestak-autoparts http://stores.ebay.com/Thomas-Sestak...r-Parts?_rdc=1 |
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I still have the keys to the '64 GTO I bought in '73 from original owner and sadly "lost" to a towing co. in '79.
A few are generic copies. But the one set I believe to be original. Still has the knockouts in 'em. The trunk key is more worn than the ignition key. The numeric code is on the same side with the GM logo. "YOUR KEY TO GREATER VALUE" also on this side. On the other side, it says "KNOCK OUT" on the knockout. Under that, it says "MADE" vertically on the left and "IN U.S.A." on right with the "RP" logo in between. On the left edge it says, "Briggs & Stratton " with "Corporation" beneath that. On right edge it says, "Milwaukee", might say "Wis" beneath that, too worn to be sure. Whatever it said, the last letter is "S" not "A". Unless I missed it, this set is unlike any other described here and I think very likely to have been original. Shows the RP and Briggs & Stratton (not the Briggs logo). I bought the car in '73 from the original owner FWIW. One set of copies I know I made after buying the car. Also have keys for my current '64 GTO. A few are generic copies. I thought one pair might have been original. Finish not nearly as worn as from the set from the long gone car. Knockouts are missing. And inspecting them just now, I see that I have 2 different keys both cut from an ignition blank, so can't be original. One might have been for a changed lock, possibly the Console? It appears that I only have a generic copy of the trunk key. The two ignition key blanks are marked identical to the ones 60sstuff posted at #7 except for the A-ABLE stamped on his. On just one of mine, somebody stamped "ANYTIME" in the area beneath the Briggs logo. |
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Bill, found this one in Mr. Sestak's listings.
Didn't find any that matched to mine, but the description shed some light on why RP produced some of them. Seems a '40s labor strike prompted GM to arrange RP to produce keys under license from B&S as an alternate source. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-GM-Roche...item51997ad25d Wonder if there is a way to discover whether RP or B&S made the lockset in your car. Sounds like the key corresponded to the lockset. If you got a RP lockset, you got the RP keys with the locks. Same keying used so the only way you might know is if RP also put their logo on the original locksets. |
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John, By chance, did you ask him if the lock sets were marked?? bill
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my 64 trip vert original trunk ,glove box and console says Rochester and has the knock out still in.Unfortunatly I have misplaced or lost the original ignition key, now I have to hunt for it.
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Also, does your key match to the ones I described (shows both the RP logo AND the Briggs & Stratton name)? Or does it match one of the other formats pictured here? |
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John,
picture below of two ignition switches one a 1963 tempest and the other a 65 as can be seen both have the original keys 65 is Rochester 63 is B&S On one the pin cover has the letters R P stamped the other one has no markings . I couldn't get it to show up in a picture . I went out and checked a couple of my other cars. the 65 post has the original keys with knock outs still in place and are original to the car they are R P . The 65 Hard top has an original set with knock outs but have only owned this car a short time and I'm not sure if they are original to the car but they are Briggs.not really related to this post but my 64 Rambler has the original keys with knock out still in place and they are Briggs . Last edited by 3 Deuce 64; 12-06-2012 at 01:32 PM. |
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