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Old 12-04-2012, 06:35 PM
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Default Anybody want a 69 Judge convertable?

How you have a lot of money and a lot of time to restore it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...item2c6a721a16

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6.60's at 102 in the 1/8th
10.52 at 126 best in the 1/4
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Day late, dollar short...

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6.60's at 102 in the 1/8th
10.52 at 126 best in the 1/4
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:41 PM
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I kn ow that's true...what's up dude...Danny from Galveston...

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Old 12-05-2012, 08:46 AM
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What's up dude, long time no see. Wife and I are retireing from racing. We have all of our stuff for sale, truck, trailer, both cars. Doctor gave me M.S. a couple of years ago and it's hard for me to be out in the sun for more than a couple of hours at a time and most tracks around here race during the day. Why don't they go back to night racing, LOL?

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6.60's at 102 in the 1/8th
10.52 at 126 best in the 1/4
4.25 stroke, .035 over 455, th400 and 3.90 gears

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Old 12-05-2012, 09:48 AM
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I, personally, wouldn't know where to start. Looks like everything would need to be replaced. All that would be left would be the VIN plate. Are you paying $50K for a VIN plate?

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That one is in decent condition compared to some I have seen restored.

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Old 12-05-2012, 10:38 AM
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Paint looks a bit rough...factory swiss cheese frame?

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:54 AM
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JMO,that is a car that would be done because you just want it.No way to come out alive even if you did all the body and paint yourself.Tom

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Old 12-05-2012, 12:58 PM
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I'd be a little wary of the $5,000 non-refundable deposit. He won't accept cash? Really? I'd be pushing to see it in person because even if this car is known to the collector car community, it is pretty easy to hijack someone's eBay account and post a scam auction with someone else's photos. It happened to me when I sold off my 303 Ram Air V engine back in 2005. Someone ran a scam listing using my photos and info. Fortunately, you guys on the PY Board came to my rescue and the listing was pulled. Caveat Emptor!

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:06 PM
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The plain fact that the price is way more than its real value has me saying "Scam!"
Sorry folks but a piece of junk is never worth 5k deposit in my book.

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:16 PM
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:31 PM
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As for the real or imagined value, a 1970 Ram Air IV judge convertible, not as nice as this one, sold at the MCACN for $350,000. Granted, it was a Ram Air IV car but, still that was stupid money. You be the judge...

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It's like Holland 1637 all over again. Tulips anyone?


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Old 12-05-2012, 02:24 PM
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The plain fact that the price is way more than its real value has me saying "Scam!"
Sorry folks but a piece of junk is never worth 5k deposit in my book.
It's not 1979, Blackcat. I've seen much worse condition extremely rare Pontiacs restored & owners came out fine as the car appreciated in value. The quality of the craftsmanship in the restoration means a lot.

Referring to the auction as a "Scam" is a low blow to the board member who has this car on eBay.

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If in fact, this was a board member, I'd feel a lot better about the situation. That being said, I myself was targeted in a phony eBay listing, so I am very wary of large, non-refundable deposits, especially when they will only accept one type of payment. I never called anyone out, I merely said that I'd want some additional verification, such as seeing the car in person. I know someone else made the accusation, but I am making my position clear.

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Old 12-05-2012, 03:34 PM
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The car looks bogus to me......the spoiler on the deck lid is
a Judge hardtop spoiler. Why would a car that has been sitting forever that is real have
a hardtop spoiler on it....BOGUS

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Old 12-05-2012, 03:56 PM
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As for the real or imagined value, a 1970 Ram Air IV judge convertible, not as nice as this one, sold at the MCACN for $350,000. Granted, it was a Ram Air IV car but, still that was stupid money. You be the judge...
See it "On The TV" all the time...take a vehicle, add $500,000 (or more) in parts & labor then sell it for $350,000 or less...
And, isn't it funny how good total POS's look on HD TV and in "interweb" pitures?

So with that: IMO if these photos look this rough imagine what it looks like in person.

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