[Jason Rogers]

Please see image attached.

For the upper bearing, I found one at a local supply that was close and modified the housing to accept it. I purchased the 69' lower bearing/plastic housing upgrade that everyone does to the 67' column.

My question is, do you remove the "washer, plastic bushing, spring and 2 peices of metal" when converting to the bearing/plastic housing?

Are the 2 springs going up the shaft located correctly with the "ring" in between them? Should the spring just sit against the face of the new bearing/plastic housing?

Thanks in advance,
Jason

[Jason Rogers]

Can someone help me with the order of parts? Anyone converted to the 69 lower bearing style?

Anyone have a clear diagram of a 67 non-tilt wheel?

[Squidward]

Ugh. I wish I could remember. I went through the exact same thing, and used the 69 bearing. It's been a couple years and it is now in the car. I had to use a factory exploded diagram and spent several hours trying to get it right. I feel your pain.

[Squidward]

I think these are what I used for references.

[Jason Rogers]

Thanks for your help. Going to mess with it this weekend.

Do you remember what pieces you didn't use when you went to the newer style lower bearing?

[Squidward]

Originally Posted by Jason Rogers

Thanks for your help. Going to mess with it this weekend.

Do you remember what pieces you didn't use when you went to the newer style lower bearing?

Went with the 69 bearing. I did not use the retainer clip. And I also used a couple of screws and a hose clamp to keep the new bearing in place. The hose clamp was to keep the end of the tube from flaring wider when I tightened the screws that held the bearing in place. IIRC, I had to sand it to fit, maybe?

I've seen on a camaro site that the 67-8 retainer/bearing stuff is available, but at a steeper price than the $30-ish I paid for the 69 bearing to go with my leftover garage junk.

[Jason Rogers]

Squidward,

Do you have the 67 Manual transmission steering column diagram and part list? If yes, can you scan it. The one above helped a little, but some of the number can't be read. Thanks for your help.

What are the large springs for and the tube inside the outside tube?

[Held for Ransom]

http://www.thefirstgensite.com/html/librarydex.htm

67 Pontiac Service Manual
Section 9.

[Jason Rogers]

HFR - Thanks for the link. Nice clear images.

I looked through and saw just automatic and tilt column. The one labeled synchromesh looks like it is for an automatic. Am I missing something?

What is the tube and springs for?

[Jason Rogers]

Anyone?

Do I even need the inner tube if it is a stick car? I'm assuming that was to shift an auto???

[Jason Rogers]

Can I get rid of the inner tube if I have a stick car?

What are the large springs for?

[Jason Rogers]

Can someone tell me if I can get rid of the inner tube and springs if I have a stick car?

[Held for Ransom]

Contact member GStage1 and see if he has an answer.

[GStage1]

I know on the 69-up models the inner tube was for the lock-out mechanism connected to the trans so the car can not start with the trans in gear.

I don't think pre-68 models had that feature. Also, never coverted/worked on
the pre-69 columns due to no demand and hard to find.

I am sure someone else can help but changing out the bearing should be a dimensional correction and reassemble the column as it was....I would not discard/remove any parts...just change the bearing/make it fit to the existing column and it should work.

[Jason Rogers]

Does anyone have an exact diagram for a 67' manual steering column? All of the diagrams I find difficult to follow/see what is going on.

[Jason Rogers]

I'm getting closer. Only issue I have now is the steering wheel is sitting up too high and I can not get the top C-clip on because the replacement bearing has a taller neck than what was originally in there. This means I will be relying on the steering wheel nut to hold the column shaft from moving up and down. I think that will be ok though. My main concern now is how to close the gap up between the steering column "cup" and the wheel itself.

Also, I bought a new cancelling cam and transferred all of the electrical stuff and the two springs. I can not figure out what makes the turn signal kick back to center when you are done turning. Did these cars not cancel the stick back to the center? I don't see how the springs are to interact with anything inside there. Help!

[Jason Rogers]

one more pic...

[Pete67FB400]

I don't see the cancelling cam in any of your photos. Look at Figure 9-16 of the 67 Pontiac Service Manual (link in post 8 above). Also see Figure 9-9 and the part labeled "coat underside with lubricant". The post on the cancel cam provides a contact for the horn, and there are 2 "bumps" on the underside of the cam. The post fits into a hole in the center of the wheel, and as the wheel turns, the cam turns with it. As the bumps move past the turn signal springs, they push the springs outward, which cancels the turn signal.

Here is the best shot of mine that I can find. You can see the cancelling bumps toward the bottom of the picture.

[Jason Rogers]

I looked at 9-16 again and that diagram does not appear to show this part. Am I missing something?

Edit: This part is "part of" the steering wheel? Do you think I can use the lock nut for the steering wheel to contain everything? I do not think I can get a c-clip back in the groove because of the taller bearing shoulder. Replacing this bearing on my own has caused so many cascading effects. I can't believe these top bearings are not reproduced. They are in so many GM vehicles.

I know I do not have the part you took a picture of (thanks!). Does that part go right side down (in the picture) down into the plastic part with the springs?

I looked in all the catalogs and on ebay and can only find a cancelling cam for a tilt wheel column. Mine isn't tilt, would that part still work?

[Pete67FB400]

I wouldn't say it is part of the wheel. It fits over the steering shaft, and there is a spring that pushes the cancel cam up against the wheel when the steering wheel nut is tightened. The post fits into a hole in the hub of the wheel and there are wires that connect to the horn button (at least on the deluxe wheel).

I'm not sure if you really need the clip or not. My column is a tilt, and it might be different there. I'm not sure if there is a difference in the cams between tilt and non-tilt, or standard and deluxe wheels. My car has a deluxe wheel.

Yes, the right side goes down into the switch area. I found more pictures that might help some. First shows the cam in the steering wheel hub. Second shows the cancel cam spring on the steering shaft, and the third shows the cam on the steering shaft with the post and the horn wires that go through the wheel hub.