[konwal455gto]

Saw a ad on craiglist for a 1979 TransAm power steering gearbox Quick ratio/ High Effort.
Will this bolt up as the ad states to a 1965 GTO, if not what would it take to make it work? Thanks for any info.

[David Holmberg]

Bolt up to what?

[GStage1]

Same GM/Saginaw box used on many GM models....will be a direct bolt-in...also, some boxes on Jeeps are the same...you can also use the G-body 1984-87 Monte Carlo SS PS boxes.....here is the article on them:


http://www.buickperformanceclub.com/GSteering.htm

[abefromen]

You'll lose turning radius using a F-body body in an A-body.

[konwal455gto]

Will it be a real noticeable loss of turning radius or some thing that I can live with?

[rexs73gto]

Compared to the turning circle on your 65 you won't notice the difference. But you will see a big difference in the way the car drives, it will be like driving a completely different car. It will drive so much better. But don't pay over $ 50.00 for that box as you can get just as good of a box from any junk yard out of a Grand Cheerokee, which usually cost about $ 50.00.

[chrisp]

Any loss of turning radius sucks , as when u turning / turning around / or parallel parking is when it will suffer . As for the way the car drives it will have a tendency for the front end to get very ski-dish , as any slight movement of the will cause a moderate amount of steering movement . Try it if not to your liking , can always change to a different box . Had a 2 /3/4 lock to lock box i my 65 , was impressed at 1st. but then reality set in loss of turning radius / very sensitive to movement of the steering wheel .

[JSchmitz]

You will notice quit a big difference in turning radius. I tried it years ago. Parking lot sucks with it! Just get the correct one.

[rexs73gto]

In the last few posts it says you'll lose turning radius & the steering will be a lot more sensitive, well thats why your changing the box so it will fell more sensitive & again the lose of turning radius will be less then 5% & as far as para parking it won't be noticeable unless you don't know how to park. I changed mine in my 68 bird & never found it any harded to park it, but I think I may have para parked it only a couple of times. I didn't make a habit of parking it that close to anyone. I used the box out of a 87 T/A & yes it was more sensitive but thats what I wanted, I wanted it to have more road feel.

[chrisp]

Originally Posted by rexs73gto

In the last few posts it says you'll lose turning radius & the steering will be a lot more sensitive, well thats why your changing the box so it will fell more sensitive & again the lose of turning radius will be less then 5% & as far as para parking it won't be noticeable unless you don't know how to park. I changed mine in my 68 bird & never found it any harded to park it, but I think I may have para parked it only a couple of times. I didn't make a habit of parking it that close to anyone. I used the box out of a 87 T/A & yes it was more sensitive but thats what I wanted, I wanted it to have more road feel.

Being born & raised in the suburbs of Phila. trust me i know how to parallel park . Tell me how the road feels when you wreck it . I would not use a box that is real tight [2 3/4 - 3 3/4 ] they have internal stops and do not even come close to allowing your suspension to contact the factory stops on the steering arms , 4 1/2 lock to lock is good upgrade .

[77 Canamman]

For your '65, you will be much happier with a 12.7:1 Saginaw '93-'98 Jeep Grand Cherokee box, '91-'96 Caprice police car or Impala SS box. I run a '96 SS box in my Pontiac police car, and it is day/night over the factory straight ratio "firm feel" box from 1976!

[konwal455gto]

Thank you all for your replies. Just as a point of reference what is the factory ratio and # of turns lock to lock

[carcrazy]

Unlike the T/A box and some others, the stops for the Jeep box are almost exactly the same as the original. Should not have any significant change is turn radius.

[konwal455gto]

Picked up a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee box today for $ 50 Thanks to all

[rexs73gto]

You'll be happy with the way it drives when you get it on. Your not going to have any of the problems that the other had stated, There are a lot of us out here that have the same swap with no problems. I think he just may need some driving lessons , or likes sloppy sterring.

[Mike Smith]

Did the same swap to my 65 GTO. It sucked...You will notice the reduced turning radius.. It will be such a PITA. The sensitivity is unbearable...With that big steering wheel and barely adequat suspention geometry...You better not try any evasive manuevers...Just get the right boxfor the car.