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Hey Everyone,
I have two gas tanks for a 68 GTO. The one from my car and one that I purchase in a big parts purchase. Both tanks have a coating on the tank. Some sort of undercoating. Is how I am supposed to leave the tank look or should it be raw metal? Thanks In Advance!
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John R. Zerucha 1968 GTO RA II Convertible Sorry..The race car is Buick Powered 70 Skylark @2800 lbs 8.78 @ 153 mph 535 Stage 4 2850 lbs 8.97 @ 149 mph 523 Stage 4 9.36 @ 143 mph 464 Stage 2 9.77 @ 135 mph 464 Stage 1 88 Hawk @2355 lbs 8.06 @ 167 mph 535 Stage 4 7.90 @ 171 mph 572 Stage 4 |
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Galvanized
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Paul FAST Automotive -The Pontiac restoration shop, not the fuel injection guys! I had the name first. My site... needs updated- www.fastrestorations.com 68 GTO's (RA II, RA I, HO, convert, Pro Street, Racecar, etc.), 2 69 GTO Judges, 70 GTO racecar -10.77 @ 124mph, 68 Tempest survivor, 3 03 Aztecs! |
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I used spray clear gloss on my new Canadian tank from PY circa 2005: gloss holding up nicely. Recall wiping down with paint thinner before spraying.
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Yes - the original factory tanks were left bare "raw" metal. The tanks were made with a special coating that resisted corrosion and that's what gave them the galvanized type look (the steel manufacturers called this "terne" steel...some type of lead/tin coating).
If the car was dealer undercoated the undersides of the tanks were typically sprayed with the same undercoat. As already mentioned....you can leave them bare or coat the thoroughly cleaned new tank with some sort of clearcoat. The new tanks (like those made in Canada by Spectra Premium) typically have an oily coating on them from the manufacturing process so make sure to get all that off if you're going to clearcoat the tank.
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Patton Glade 70Post Restorations Austin, TX 64-72 GM A-Body Gas Tank Pads http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/...tion-item.html |
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the only way to go nowadays is with the recently available stainless
steel repro tanks.....they have a beautiful show stopping finish that will never tarnish, and best of all they are very inexpensive and ethanol fuel does nothing to the inside of them. It's a no brainer. You can also order stainless steel straps to go with them. I've got these tanks on all my A-bodies. Sending units are also available in stainless steel. You can order them from Auto City Classic. |
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I went with the Canadian manufactured tank as well. Ordered at my local parts store. Wiped down with degreaser and clearcoated. Holding up well so far. Hadn't heard anything about the recently available stainless...sounds like a good alternative.
Black or undercoated tank is a no-no in my book.
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I painted my new spectra tank with Krylon Dual satin black...I didn't want it to distract from my new Strange Dana 60. lol Didn't wipe it down or nutin'. Looks good for now but time will tell...
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I put absulotly nothing on my GTO's new tank, and after one winter it was begining to look "Milky White". You gotta put some kind of coating on it most definetly.
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P Glade nailed it: original tanks were "terne plate", not a common process anymore due to EPA regs. The tank i bought from Auto City Classic was cleaned, then BC/CC with a silver color. Not exactly original, but holding up well.
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That's likely what caused the "whitish" look with time mentioned by a poster above...zinc, being a "sacrificial" coating, tends to sometimes dull out or take on this chalky look. Probably moreso in humid environments. It's the zinc doing its job. Unfortunately, looking good for a long time isn't in the marching orders handed to zinc!
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Patton Glade 70Post Restorations Austin, TX 64-72 GM A-Body Gas Tank Pads http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/...tion-item.html |
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the clear coat won't distract from the Strange Dana60. Pretty sure. The original factory straps have a metal grain finish that looks like damascus steel. again clear coat brings decent factory straps to excellence. |
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Were the original factory straps black in color?
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1966 GTO Vert automatic. 1969 CR Judge Ram Air III 4sp Pattern Car. 1969 GTO standard 350HP TH-400. 2006 GTO Phantom Black 6spd. 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air. 1976 LE Trans Am 50th Anniversary Edition with T top. 1976 Formula 350. 1977 Grand Prix Model J 350. 1978 Trans am 400 Pontiac. 1979 Trans am 403 Olds. 1968 Olds 442. 1971 TR6. |
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some were black, some were natural.
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the straps were originally galvanized steel...at least the many bare ones I've pulled and seen on cars with unpainted straps.
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Patton Glade 70Post Restorations Austin, TX 64-72 GM A-Body Gas Tank Pads http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/...tion-item.html |
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The original tanks were made with continuous sheet galvanized steel from the mill itself (which is why the edges and welded areas were bare steel as the tanks were cut, formed and welded after galvanizing). The galvanized coating was very thin and was primarily zinc but with lead and tin additions to increase "bend-ability".
The white discoloration could occur on these tanks in the day but the coating will stabilize to a dull silver-grey over time when exposed to wet and dry. The tanks done today won't have lead which will make the coating initially more silver less grey, will increase the whitish powder initially but with time the two will look very similar. Like anything repro I assume the coating is much thinner than original. I am in the galvanizing business, for 30 years, so this is an area I know well. The coating on the tanks is the same you see on corrugated roofing like on barns and prefab buildings etc.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s) 1969 Custom S 2dr ht 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht) 1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr ht) 1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat 1969 Exec 4dr post 1969 2 Bonnie Cvt's & 2 wagons 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s 1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian) |
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John,
Thank you for the response. What process would I use to make this tank look as close to original as possible?
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John R. Zerucha 1968 GTO RA II Convertible Sorry..The race car is Buick Powered 70 Skylark @2800 lbs 8.78 @ 153 mph 535 Stage 4 2850 lbs 8.97 @ 149 mph 523 Stage 4 9.36 @ 143 mph 464 Stage 2 9.77 @ 135 mph 464 Stage 1 88 Hawk @2355 lbs 8.06 @ 167 mph 535 Stage 4 7.90 @ 171 mph 572 Stage 4 |
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depends on what you want; for a brand new look I'd clear it like others mentioned but if you want a more natural look you could try rubbing it down with a very light oil (rubbing but not leaving heavy oil residue, this will prevent or remove the white stuff and over time will darken the coating so that the tank will look more "right" on an older resto or unrestored car
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s) 1969 Custom S 2dr ht 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht) 1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & a 2dr ht) 1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat 1969 Exec 4dr post 1969 2 Bonnie Cvt's & 2 wagons 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s 1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian) |
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Anyone ever try to zinc "brush plate" a fuel tank? Seems like it should technically be possible.
JohnnyB |
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