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Old 05-24-2016, 02:09 PM
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Default '79 Trans Am vs. Hellcat!!

Thought you may enjoy this. That's a great-running Pontiac. Too bad we can't see the ET's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIjsXNQIoXI

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From the audio it was an 11.4 to a 10.94, half a second on the hellcow.....................

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Yes - bring on the new stuff - Runs a Pontiac 455 - Don't know how built it is .

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Pontiac power, old school, have to love it!..... Unless you just plopped down 75K+ for a Hellcat. Reminds me of when the Grand Nationals first came out and were kicking the butts of most of the old muscle cars. Fans at the drags loved to see an old carburetor muscle car beat one. We are just another generation down the road.

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Pontiac power, old school, have to love it!..... Unless you just plopped down 75K+ for a Hellcat. Reminds me of when the Grand Nationals first came out and were kicking the butts of most of the old muscle cars. Fans at the drags loved to see an old carburetor muscle car beat one. We are just another generation down the road.
Like this one - Jim Mino's 68 Firebird RA II 400 kicking a Grand Nationals butt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKHFamXGxqM

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If that was the 1986 Supercar Showdown, I was there. It was held at Quaker City Dragway in Ohio and that GN would have been new. Firebird looked great walking away from it although the GN was a great car for the time and we all know how fast they were modified. Had the pleasure of riding on the street in one that ran in the high 9's. Incredible, especially when you look at what a frightening pile of junk the engines are on the inside.

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If that was the 1986 Supercar Showdown, I was there. It was held at Quaker City Dragway in Ohio and that GN would have been new. Firebird looked great walking away from it although the GN was a great car for the time and we all know how fast they were modified. Had the pleasure of riding on the street in one that ran in the high 9's. Incredible, especially when you look at what a frightening pile of junk the engines are on the inside.
Yes 86 Supercar Showdown - GN's were all over the Vette's etc. but Jim Mino's 400 Firebird was the Quickest car there putting 427 Camaro's etc. on the trailer - also he was quickest for 87 too beating a Hemi Road Runner for the Final

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And I am betting the Trans AM had no "power booster" like the supercharged Hellcow. It is likely naturally aspirated. I love to see things like this.

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I was surprised... maybe it's just me, but that Pontiac sounds very, very strong. Gotta be hitting close to 7K too.

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I suppose the Hellcat was off the showroom stock....or pretty close. A/C. Probably no A/C on the TA. The Hellcat will probably cruise effortlessly/quietly at 75/80 all day long. Probably not with the TA. In cruise mode the Hellcat probably returns pretty good mileage. Probably not with the TA.

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I don't think that was a hellcat. Didn't have the hood nor the stance and I didn't see the badge on the fender and no hellcat came with chrome wheels but then someone could have been a tool and removed the perfect wheel for that car for some ghetto chromes.

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11.4 isn't a SRT in stock trim. As much as those cows weigh from the factory if it wasn't a hellcat, it had some pretty stout modifications. Whey weigh well over 4000# as they come from the dealer and an as equipped from the factory ain't going to haul it that fast through the quarter.

With street tires and 707 HP they run right about where that car ran. Internet reports 11.2 on street tires, 10.8 on slicks.

SRT 392 N/A is 485 HP is touted by chrysler in their advertisement to be a low 12 second car. So the car in the video (hellcat or not) is about.8 seconds faster than a N/A 392 SRT challenger.

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The hellcat curb weight is 4439#. That's only 200# less than a 71-76 Bonneville.........

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The hellcat curb weight is 4439#. That's only 200# less than a 71-76 Bonneville.........
Yep, and a wheelbase about the size of a chevelle. It's girth and heft deter me greatly.
Strange thing is that no one ever talks about these new car specs. They just mention the power.

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And I am betting the Trans AM had no "power booster" like the supercharged Hellcow. It is likely naturally aspirated. I love to see things like this.
Hmmm, Stock 79 TA in street trim versus Challenger 5.7 hemi, SRT, or Hellcat in street trim= No contest, would be a complete laugher. Warmed over TA compared to a stock Challenger Hemi, SRT, or Hellcat, yea could happen but what is the point.

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That was a Hellcat.
There is one in my area.
I was sitting at a stoplight in my '63 GP last week.
Hellcat was siiting at corner stoplight.
He stood on it when his light turned green.
Went by me around 75-80 mph.
Did not let off tiil he hit 120-130mph.
The Hellcat Supercharger is Really Loud.

Yesterday A Tesla S Driver slowed down t give me a Thumbs up on the Highway.
Checking out my old Grand Prix.
Shaking him with 425 Olds power.
He then shot ahead like a Bullet.
Pretty fast electric car.

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Hmmm, Stock 79 TA in street trim versus Challenger 5.7 hemi, SRT, or Hellcat in street trim= No contest, would be a complete laugher. Warmed over TA compared to a stock Challenger Hemi, SRT, or Hellcat, yea could happen but what is the point.
How about a 79 T/A Vs a 79 dodge magnum? I know who wins that one..............

79 dodge magnum Vs 2005 GTO or a 2009 G8 GT......................

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