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Oshawa Vs USA built 1970 Judges
Did a search on here but found nothing after 20 or so pages.What's the difference if any between Oshawa assembled 1970 Judges and USA assembled Judges. Thx
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Trim tag on an Oshawa built Judge will list the WT-1 option code
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Found this on Wiki about Oshawa, pretty interesting.
Main article: McLaughlin Motor Car Company Col. R. S. McLaughlin and "Billy" Durant signed a 15-year contract in 1907, under which the McLaughlin Motor Car Company began to manufacture automobiles under the McLaughlin name, using Buick engines and other mechanical parts. Buick was merged into General Motors shortly after, and in 1915 the firm acquired the manufacturing rights to the Chevrolet brand. Within three years, the McLaughlin Motor Car Company and the Chevrolet Motor Car Company of Canada merged, creating General Motors of Canada in 1918 with McLaughlin as President.[18][19] The factory expanded rapidly, eventually covering several blocks. The popularity of the automobile in the 1920s generated rapid expansion of Oshawa, which grew in population from 4,000 to 16,000 during this decade, and of its land area. In 1924, Oshawa annexed the area to its south, including the harbour and the community of Cedardale. This growth allowed Oshawa to seek incorporation as a city, which took place 8 March 1924. With the wealth he gained in his business venture, in 1916 McLaughlin built one of the most stately homes in Canada, "Parkwood". The 55-room residence was designed by Toronto architect John M. Lyle. McLaughlin lived in the house for 55 years with his wife and they raised five daughters. The house replaced an older mansion, which was about 30 years old when it was demolished; the grounds of the earlier home had been operated as Prospect Park, and this land was acquired by the town and became its first municipal park, Alexandra Park. Parkwood today is open to the public as a National Historic Site. Tours are offered.
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Ok thx so much, like say a '70 LS5 Chevelle that was also built at Oshawa, if i didn't see it on the paperwork or Tag I'd never know just looking at the car.
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Look for the number '1' in the VIN instead of a plant letter code (e.g. P for Pontiac, Michigan) 1 = Oshawa built
Also, an inordinate amount of 1970 Oshawa Judges were built with the 3.90 rear and M21 close ratio instead of 3.55, M20 combo. NO RAM AIR IVs built in Oshawa |
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Starlightblack thanks for that.
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Some minor assembly differences I've noticed; Oshawa built GTO's had no seam sealer on the door skin lip and I also noticed that they used an orange type glue to hold the trunk mat in place. They also used chevy body mounts rather than the Pontiac specific ones used in most US plants.
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s) 1969 Custom S 2dr ht 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht) 1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & 2dr ht) 1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat 1969 Exec 4dr post 1969 Bonnie Cvt & 2 wagons 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s 1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian) |
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A couple of other oddities are the lack of radiator support shrouds and the use of body shutz around heater box and fuse box area of the firewall
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The parking brake pedal assembly is different on my Oshawa built Judge than the US ones.
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Bolts were a bit tighter on the Oshawa ones........(trying to post a smiley here.!)
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They weren't tighter when new, its just the rust seizing them up from 8 months a year of road salt!
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s) 1969 Custom S 2dr ht 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht) 1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & 2dr ht) 1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat 1969 Exec 4dr post 1969 Bonnie Cvt & 2 wagons 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s 1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian) |
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With only 288 built and unique RPO codes stamped into firewall body tag for Fisher Body modifications, ie WT1 Judge option, D80 Rear spoiler, make the 1970 GTO Judge's built in Oshawa Ontario very special.
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Rich Johns Owner/Operator of Pure Stock Auto Restorations Inc. www.purestockauto.com 1969 GTO Judge Ram Air IV M21 4 speed 3:90 1970 GTO Judge Ram Air III M21 4 speed 3:90 Oshawa Built 1970 GSX Stage 1 M21 4 Speed 3.64 # 67 of 678 Original Paint 1970 GSX Stage 1 Auto 3.64 # 603 of 678 12.44@109.73 mph 2011 Buick GS Nats Pure Stock, 12.71@110.64 mph PSMCDR 2011 1970 GS Stage 1 Convertible Auto 3:64 12.71@109.15 mph PSMCDR 2009 1970 GS 455 M21 4 Speed 3.42 1987 GN Astro Roof |
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Wonder how many "mint turquoise" '70 Judges were built in Canada like mine was??
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2006 GTO/silver, 1969 Judge/Carousel Red, 1970 Judge/Black, 2002 T/A CETA..... |
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There weren't many mint turquoise cars period so I can imagine a mint judge would be rare.The pick in my sig is my Oshawa 455 4speed mint turquoise car.
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.64 @ 87.3 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.25 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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Wonder how many Oshawa OO Judges where built non-posi... non gage non tach… automatic but with the rare speed warning speedo ..oh yah sandalwood interior and PK5 tires……umm mine LOL Thank God 1 of 1
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Yours had speed warning? Never noticed. My Bonnie ragtop has both gauges and speedwarning (a combo not possible on A bodies).
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My Break Away Squad 1969 Fbird (base OHC, 350, 400HO & Sprint Cvt’s - 400HO & TA ht’s) 1969 Custom S 2dr ht 1969 LeMans (2dr & 4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 LeMans Safari wagon 1969 GTO (2 Cvt, 2 ht & Judge ht) 1969 Cat (3 Cvt’s & 2dr ht) 1969 Ventura wagon 2 seat 1969 Exec 4dr post 1969 Bonnie Cvt & 2 wagons 1969 Bonnie Brougham (4dr ht & Cvt) 1969 Grand Prix 2 SJ’s 1969 2+2 2dr ht (Canadian) |
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