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Old 04-12-2018, 08:40 PM
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Default COOL BEAUMONT SD396

I think this is a good buy for someone who wants a rare car.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Chevro...Zaz9za&vxp=mtr

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Old 04-12-2018, 09:46 PM
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It might be a Chevelle body but it is not a Chevelle. It's a Canadian Pontiac GTO with a Chevy 396 engine. Back in the 60s Canada could not get Pontiac parts and bodies to make real GTOs. Hence they used Chevy parts and engines to make the Beaumont that has Pontiac emblems on it.

"General Motors of Canada Vintage Vehicle Services Documented real 1967 SD396 Beaumont 73817 v.i.n." This says nothing about it being Chevrolet.

Looks like it would be a fairly good car to restore on the outside, but it's a mess underneath.

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I’m wondering why he doesn’t show the documentation to prove it’s a factory big block. Is indeed very rare if it’s the real deal. A local dealership in Vancouver put 425horse 427’s in those with those same wheels and special badging. Called it a cheeta that’s the holy grail of Beaumont’s, akin to a yenko or the likes

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738 is big block..its right there in the VIN for 67

738 Canadian...
138 US built

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A friend of mine has a 67 Cheeta, fully documented car. Has all the correct Conroy ( I Believe ) Badging. Chevy Big Block Beaumont, 4spd car.

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If it is real its a very Kool car, I like the Pontiac Logo Clock block off plate on the center Console, but am I cheap in thinking its over priced for condition, considering it is not a numbers matching car? Or even powered by a BBC?

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Old 04-13-2018, 09:51 AM
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To go against the grain here, I find these Canadian Poncho's odd. The styling usually looks hastily done, easy mods to make different. The car here has a Buickish grille look to me. The Chevy powerplant doesn't offend me, but should appeal more to Chevy collectors than Pontiac ones. I just find them quirky looking and unappealing in powerplant, although a 350 or 375 HP 396 is a great engine. In a Chevy

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It would be even better if it was a four speed car but I still like it. I would imagine reproduction body panels for a Chevelle should work?

The current bid is $5600 which seems reasonable for a rare car like that, even in its current condition.

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I can't speak to the price, but I like the car. I have seen 66 and 68 Beaumonts in person, but never a 67. I like the tail light setup; I think its a big improvement over the Chevelle. Overall a neat car.

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I've always wanted one of those Beaumonts. That and a Falcon XB.

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The Canadian Oshawa built Big block 1966 -1969 Beaumont SD 396 cars are very special and very rare.

Best feature of the 1967 SD 396 cars were the big, very Pontiac, tri faux vent appliques on the rear quarters. So cool!

I believe I looked at this car and almost bought it, circa spring 1986.
It was missing it's factory SD Big Block Hood ( AKA SS 396 Chevelle Hood) back then and is apparently still missing.

Glad to see it is still around.
Seller needs to get GM of Canada documentation for it.

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It might be a Chevelle body but it is not a Chevelle. It's a Canadian Pontiac GTO with a Chevy 396 engine. Back in the 60s Canada could not get Pontiac parts and bodies to make real GTOs. Hence they used Chevy parts and engines to make the Beaumont that has Pontiac emblems on it.
Not sure if I agree with this.

It's more of a Canadian Chevelle SS 396 than a "Canadian Pontiac GTO," even though it was sold by Pontiac dealerships. Yet there's no Pontiac branding on it.

And it has nothing to do with getting Pontiac parts and bodies –*it's a lot more about tariffs, trade, and offering Canadians an indigenous vehicle. This is the way GM went until 1970, when the laws changed and made the Beaumont obsolete (although the full-size cars continued to use unique names).

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It's more of a Canadian Chevelle SS 396 than a "Canadian Pontiac GTO," .
Exactly. They aren't really a unique "Pontiac" although they kind of are in a kinship way. They are extremely important and as a collector car very desirable, definitely different drummer material and magazine feature kind of car. I assume there are some resto'd or original nice ones around? They are just more of a Pontiac "cousin".....

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Not sure if I agree with this.

It's more of a Canadian Chevelle SS 396 than a "Canadian Pontiac GTO," even though it was sold by Pontiac dealerships. Yet there's no Pontiac branding on it.

And it has nothing to do with getting Pontiac parts and bodies –*it's a lot more about tariffs, trade, and offering Canadians an indigenous vehicle. This is the way GM went until 1970, when the laws changed and made the Beaumont obsolete (although the full-size cars continued to use unique names).
Yep, that's a Chevy sold at Pontiac dealerships. There's a couple of bits tacked on after the fact that point to the Pontiac brand, but as a whole that car is a Chevy. Nothing wrong with that, it's definitely an interesting oddity, but it's a Chevy at heart.

Now, the 1972 Pontiac Laurentian that I had a few years back was a Pontiac with a Chevy drivetrain. It didn't just look like it, but it in fact was a '72 Catalina inside and out, with the only difference being the Chevy drivetrain.

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The Canadian Oshawa built Big block 1966 -1969 Beaumont SD 396 cars are very special and very rare.

Best feature of the 1967 SD 396 cars were the big, very Pontiac, tri faux vent appliques on the rear quarters. So cool!

I believe I looked at this car and almost bought it, circa spring 1986.
It was missing it's factory SD Big Block Hood ( AKA SS 396 Chevelle Hood) back then and is apparently still missing.

Glad to see it is still around.
Seller needs to get GM of Canada documentation for it.
Thanks - have GM of Canada Vintage Vehicle Services Documentation - unable to modify the listing now that its been bid on to add a picture of the documents - originally figured it was more important to show pictures of the condition of the car requiring 'frame off' restoration - the Big Block SD 396 is in the vin with the 738 like a Chevelle SS that would have a 138 -- can e-mail pictures of the VVS documentation

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I’m wondering why he doesn’t show the documentation to prove it’s a factory big block. Is indeed very rare if it’s the real deal. A local dealership in Vancouver put 425horse 427’s in those with those same wheels and special badging. Called it a cheeta that’s the holy grail of Beaumont’s, akin to a yenko or the likes
I am unable to add more pictures - I have the VVS documents and can e-mail a picture of them to anyone that needs to see them before bidding - as mentioned the 738 vin makes it a factory Big Block SD396 car


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Get your glasses out Diego. There is Pontiac badging on it. Look at all of the photos.

I lived up there on the Canadian border in NY and saw them up close and personal on several occasions when I'd go over to Cornwall or Ottawa Ontario. I've even seen one on our side if the border once. They were one of the coolest cars made in Canada back then. Believe me they are real and Pontiac's name is on them. A Beaumont is Not a Chevy.

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pontiac-esq looking badges..not pontiac badges

evrything stated here is true: It's more of a Canadian Chevelle SS 396 than a "Canadian Pontiac GTO," even though it was sold by Pontiac dealerships. Yet there's no Pontiac branding on it.

And it has nothing to do with getting Pontiac parts and bodies –*it's a lot more about tariffs, trade, and offering Canadians an indigenous vehicle. This is the way GM went until 1970, when the laws changed and made the Beaumont obsolete

NOT one badge on those cars say pontiac...even the arrowhead looking things are a couple of embs put together..its a shield and a crest and maple leaves..nothing on that car says pontiac..the dash emb looks like a 64 GTO badge but says Sport DeLuxe...canadas version of a Super Sport..not GTO

all of this stuff is on line..easily researchable

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These cars are really a GM make of their own but have been adopted by both camps. My 69 Beaumont was always a great conversation piece and well accepted at both Pontiac and Chevy meets and shows.
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It really is a Ponti-Chev mash-up. I don't know why they didn't go all the way with a Pontiac engine, since they did sell them at Pontiac dealers. But we'll never know. The body and interior look more Pontiac than Chevy, though.
I do know that my dad's '68 Beaumont SD would blow the doors off of almost anything we came up against. It was a great looking car in Linden green with a black vinyl top. Even back then we knew it was a special car, but it rusted right out as a daily driver and he traded it on 1977 on a Volkswagen Rabbit.

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