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Old 07-08-2018, 11:30 PM
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Default 511ci Dan Barton custom Tiger intake
Dyno with Dan's custom ported Tiger intake with his ported HP heads.
Not sure why it attached sidways??
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Old 07-09-2018, 09:57 AM
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Pretty darn good!!



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Old 07-09-2018, 10:24 AM
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That was an awesome build. Anxious to see the new one.

Appreciate you sharing these details and results of the last one.

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Looking at this dyno sheet over the one with the Victor on it. Did you run both on the car at the track? Wondering the ET difference with the victor producing more avg. Torque and just a little less power

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Old 07-09-2018, 11:35 AM
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Looking at this dyno sheet over the one with the Victor on it. Did you run both on the car at the track? Wondering the ET difference with the victor producing more avg. Torque and just a little less power
Couple issues with the car that clouds the results. The headers i believe are and a restriction (effected both but i believ more so the Tigers), the converter was never restalled and lastly the way i pulled timing out on launch was different and i believe it effect the 60-330 with the Tiger intake. But the end result between the two was about equal. The Tiger was about a tenth slow from the 60ft-330ft but it made up for that by the end.
I shifted the Tiger intake 8800 vs 8400 for the Victor. The Tiger responded nicely to more rpm as it should have. I just never got things sorted out with the car for the Tiger, my fault on that.

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Thanks for posting this. Its very interesting considering what I want to do. @ 7500 where the Victor peaked at the Tiger is making 1032 HP. Basically the same as the Victor(1037) but keeps climbing to 8000RPM and still has some nice numbers past that.
Peak torque is 400RPM past where the Victor peaked at 757 @ 6300RPM vs 744 @ 6700 RPM.

Do you still have this intake, going to Tigers, will not need it.
What were your numbers just bolting on a wide port BOP ?

Do you have a pump gas dyno sheet you can share ? I am thinking I can get to where I want to go staring out anyway shifting at 6100 RPM -6500 max. That awesome 69 judge I posted pics of shifts at 6100. Goes 9.30 but only 2800lbs. Says valve spring last a long time shifting at 6100 and I think he has a std cam journal.

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Any photos of the tiger intake vs the victor for comparison?

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Old 07-09-2018, 05:28 PM
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Thanks for posting this. Its very interesting considering what I want to do. @ 7500 where the Victor peaked at the Tiger is making 1032 HP. Basically the same as the Victor(1037) but keeps climbing to 8000RPM and still has some nice numbers past that.
Peak torque is 400RPM past where the Victor peaked at 757 @ 6300RPM vs 744 @ 6700 RPM.

Do you still have this intake, going to Tigers, will not need it.
What were your numbers just bolting on a wide port BOP ?

Do you have a pump gas dyno sheet you can share ? I am thinking I can get to where I want to go staring out anyway shifting at 6100 RPM -6500 max. That awesome 69 judge I posted pics of shifts at 6100. Goes 9.30 but only 2800lbs. Says valve spring last a long time shifting at 6100 and I think he has a std cam journal.
Do i still have which intake? The Victor?
I thought Marcella was making you a Tiger intake??
Yes i dyno'd a port matched BOP

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Any photos of the tiger intake vs the victor for comparison?
Yes, Tiger on left, Victor on right
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Do i still have which intake? The Victor?
I thought Marcella was making you a Tiger intake??
Yes i dyno'd a port matched BOP
Yes, he has my stuff. I just wanted to see a pic of it. I like more information about things sometimes. Some call is nosy, just like to talk Pontiac. I forgot about you and the Tiger intake. You have experience on exactly what I am trying to do.
What were your results with the port matched BOP ?

Do you have a side pic of the Tiger. You went with something taller than what I am planning. Looks almost like a mini T ram.

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Did you try more timing at any point?

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Couple issues with the car that clouds the results. The headers i believe are and a restriction (effected both but i believ more so the Tigers), the converter was never restalled and lastly the way i pulled timing out on launch was different and i believe it effect the 60-330 with the Tiger intake. But the end result between the two was about equal. The Tiger was about a tenth slow from the 60ft-330ft but it made up for that by the end.
I shifted the Tiger intake 8800 vs 8400 for the Victor. The Tiger responded nicely to more rpm as it should have. I just never got things sorted out with the car for the Tiger, my fault on that.
Thanks for the info. Good stuff

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Did you try more timing at any point?
Yes no matter the intake it always liked the same total timing on the dyno. In the car we tried many things with both intakes and the trend was the same

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Yes, he has my stuff. I just wanted to see a pic of it. I like more information about things sometimes. Some call is nosy, just like to talk Pontiac. I forgot about you and the Tiger intake. You have experience on exactly what I am trying to do.
What were your results with the port matched BOP ?

Do you have a side pic of the Tiger. You went with something taller than what I am planning. Looks almost like a mini T ram.
BOP test
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Thanks for sharing. Very Interesting.

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Couple issues with the car that clouds the results. The headers i believe are and a restriction (effected both but i believ more so the Tigers), the converter was never restalled and lastly the way i pulled timing out on launch was different and i believe it effect the 60-330 with the Tiger intake. But the end result between the two was about equal. The Tiger was about a tenth slow from the 60ft-330ft but it made up for that by the end.
I shifted the Tiger intake 8800 vs 8400 for the Victor. The Tiger responded nicely to more rpm as it should have. I just never got things sorted out with the car for the Tiger, my fault on that.
Header in a 2nd gen firebird... ..I have a custom built set still way to small no room in the stock frame...It hurts power a lot ..IMO

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Thanks for sharing. Very Interesting.

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Thanks Stan, i've been wanting to graph them but just never found the time.

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Do you have a pump gas dyno sheet you can share ?
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What was the CR?

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Took a while to dig it up
Thanks.I thought you would still be up around 700lbs torque but that was a 4.25 stroke engine wasn't it ? Then you went up in stroke when you went race gas ?
Very nice numbers, I have my work cut out for me if I want to get past that.

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