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Old 10-04-2024, 04:53 PM
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Bonus question...is the dash vin supposed to match the serial in the cowl tag?

Do the rivets look sus?

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Old 10-04-2024, 05:10 PM
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The cowl tag stuff never matches the VIN.
The body number is for the body.


The rivets look good to me?



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Oh ok - how can you tell if she has been rebodied then?

Also, is it a white with black interior 455HO car based on what you see here?

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Norwood cars had 22387 (base bird) on their tags, while Van Nuys cars had their actual trim on the tags, 22387, 22487, 22687 and 22887.

Looking at the tag, it's a 2nd week December build in 1971 for the 1972 model year. Cameo White with black deluxe interior, built in Norwood.

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I'd say if car was suspect it would be the VIN tagged changed?


With the PHS for the VIN of the car, you would compare the PHS stuff to what is on the cowl tag. With the date on the cowl tag it should be in the range of the PHS date. Quite a few things to tell if it had one or the other modified.



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Since no one responded.
The WS4 indicates a Trans Am, so 455HO would be standard engine.

And 216 would be standard black interior, wouldn't it?

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206 would indicate standard black interior.

As its a 12B body build, & could have spent a little extra time in the body bank @ Norwalk would be interesting to know if it has characteristics of being an early production '72 or late production '72 TransAm.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=875305

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Oh ok, guy on deathbed we will see about the PhD

It looks standard to me...what does the deluxe look like in 7-2?

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I thought 226 was custom interior.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com....php?p=5205503 shows 216 as standard interior.

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216 is std black
226 is custom black
no 206 in 1972, green in 70/71



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ST 72 = 1972, 22387 = Firebird, NOR = Built at Norwood, Ohio, 175420BDY = Body number
TR216 = standard black vinyl interior, 11 11 PNT = Polar White paint,
12B = Built 2nd week of December, A51 = bucket seats, WS4 = Trans Am

The left rivet looks off? Don't the two look different o anyone else?

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ST 72 = 1972, 22387 = Firebird, NOR = Built at Norwood, Ohio, 175420BDY = Body number
TR216 = standard black vinyl interior, 11 11 PNT = Polar White paint,
12B = Built 2nd week of December, A51 = bucket seats, WS4 = Trans Am

The left rivet looks off? Don't the two look different o anyone else?
The rivet holes were sometimes filled with putty after installation. I have had some that look the same way. The putty would shrink over the years and come out.

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ST 72 = 1972, 22387 = Firebird, NOR = Built at Norwood, Ohio, 175420BDY = Body number
TR216 = standard black vinyl interior, 11 11 PNT = Polar White paint,
12B = Built 2nd week of December, A51 = bucket seats, WS4 = Trans Am

The left rivet looks off? Don't the two look different o anyone else?

Max, paint code 11 is Cameo White. In '70, paint code 10 is Polar White.

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Cowl tag and rivets look to be original to me.

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Max, paint code 11 is Cameo White. In '70, paint code 10 is Polar White.
Oopsies. You'd think since I own 3 Cameo White T/A's I would've picked up on that I assumed all 70-72's were the same colour and just re-used Polar White.

Didn't know that about the rivets either, my '71 doesn't have the putty in them so never picked up on that or saw those on other examples

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