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Building a 433 stroker w KRE heads and wanted to get roller rockers. Preferably full roller rockers and 1.5 ratio should be fine. Recommendations please.
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I would stay away from cheap knock offs. Scorpion Pontiac rockers, the Harland Sharp race series or Comp. Are good. I have used. Them. . And of course Crower Stainless steel are a great option.
The cheaper rockers like the Speed Masters are noisy,I did not like them due to how noisy they are and would not recommend. |
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I've been running the Scorpion 1.5's on my 37 for about 4 years now. I've had no issues. I bought them through Butler.
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37 Pontiac Sedan 455 700r4 94 Firehawk Supercharged 5.7 LT1 6spd. 71 GTO base 400 A/T 97 F250 7.3 turbo diesel |
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I've had Harland Sharp 1.5's in service now for 11 years and thousands of miles. The same rockers have been on two different engines.
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I have been running H&S for as long as I can remember.Have used them for pretty much all my builds.Tom
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Harland Sharp here too and never an issue. Very good customer service as well.
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Be sure the pushrod socket promotes low friction for easy spin.
Nothing like a Roller Rocker that prevents the Pishrod& Lifter from spinning. |
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Thanks for the responses. I thought I'd heard good things about HS and Scorpion, so your comments confirm this. I've also heard that there are problems with the Comp. rockers, bluing from heat due to interference with the ball and socket. Has that problem been addressed?
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HS and Howard's 1.65s on 2 different engines, both great
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Chris D 69 GTO Liberty Blue/dark blue T400, 9" w 3.50s, 3905lbs 461, 850 Holley, T2, KRE 310s, Comp HR 236/242D .572/.594L, RA manifolds, 11.53@114, 1.55/60 The spare: 467, 850 Holley, T2, Edelbrock Dport 310cfm w RA manifolds, Howard HFT 245/251D .561/.594L, 11.59@ 114, 1.57/ 60' |
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As with most things like this you only hear about the small number of problems when the large majority are working perfectly fine.... theres reports & pics of H/S rockers breaking too, doesnt mean all of them are gonna break!
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Keep in mind some rockers have a spring PSI limitation, so if you're planning on running a solid roller, you should step up to the stronger offerings.
The PRW stainless ones Butler branded are an option, and half the price of others. The PRW 'Elite' series are stainless and the same cost as the Scorpions/Comp aluminum bodies. Interesting Butler doesn't carry the Harland Sharp ones anymore. .
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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Been running Harland Sharp here on a couple of vehicles, one set for 20+ years and thousands of miles.
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'71 GTO, 406 CID, 60916, 1.65 HS, '69 #46 Heads 230CFM, 800CFM Q-jet, TH400, 12 Bolt 3.55 '72 Lemans, Lucerne Blue, WU2, T41, L78, M22, G80 |
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Depending on your timeline, good used HS pop up here all the time at a significant savings so keep an eye on the for-sale ads.
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird, 400/461, 290 Eddy D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '69 LeMans Vert, XS 350, #47 heads, TH400, 10 Bolt 3.23 gears, work in progress ‘66 Lemans, 455, 310 KRE D-Ports, HR 236/245, TH400, GV OD, 12 bolt 3.73 gears - see it here: https://youtu.be/RP_s1wJKm_Y?si=K0NZxoTyaGcj8Dcb |
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Crower enduro
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72 lemans,455 e-head, UD 255/263 solid flat,3.73 gears,,,10" 4400 converter,, 6.68 at 101.8 mph,,1.44 60 ft.2007 (cam 271/278 roller)9"CC.4.11gear 6.41 at 106.32 mph 1.42 60 ft.(2009) SOLD,SOLD 1970 GTO 455 4 speed #matching,, 3.31 posi.Stock manifolds. # 64 heads.A factory mint tuquoise ,69' judge stripe car. 8.45 @ 88.1 mph on slippery street tires.Bad 2.19 60ft.Owned since 86' |
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We have Harland Sharp on 4 engines with Round port E-heads.
Rocker arm geometry is perfect with these rockers. (With the correct length pushrod).
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3 Generations of "Beach Boys Racing" ! Everybody knows somthin. Nobody knows everything ! 1st time on a dragstrip, 1964. Flagstart ! "Thanks for the entertainment." "Real Indians Don't Wear Bowties" |
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I ended up going with the HS 1.5's. I liked the
Crowers but they were twice the price...yikes. |
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Correction to my post- The set I bought new in the early 90s and have been on 2 different motors over ~30 years have 100k miles on them, not 10k.
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Three different engines ,three different heads, four different camshafts HS rockers. 25 years same set. What no one mentions is customer service..I sent them in for a checkover some of the rollers were sticky..I think it was less than a hundred dollars and sent back in a shrink wrap package.
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466 Mike Voycey shortblock, 310cfm SD KRE heads, SD "OF 2.0 cam", torker 2,generic one inch open spacer 373 gears 3200 Continental Convertor best et 10.679/127.5/1.533 60ft 308 gears best et 10.76/125.64/1.5471 |
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I've had really good experience with either the Harland Sharp and the PRW stainless.
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1968 Firebird IA2 522 340 E-heads Northwind 950 Carb 4L80E 3.50:1 Rear 1969 Firebird IA2 535 Northwind (Induction undetermined) 3.50:1 Rear
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I threw a set of PRW stainless in the garbage and called Butler to complain about selling them to me in the first place, put Crower Enduros in. Who wants the risk of roller tip pin material grinding up everything in a very expensive engine. Maybe if Pontiacs were as cheap to replace as a Chev small block.
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