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Ponti · 02-27-2002, 06:19 PM

I called Butler yesterday to get a stroker kit. Dave Butler says he no longer sells the Eagle rods, but now sells Scat Rods instead for $499.

I haven't heard much about Scat Rods. Any of you use them... and any pros or cons to them? Are they an upgrade or downgrade from Eagle?? Thanks

BVR421 · 03-03-2002, 11:22 PM

Cobra Bill you must have left the door open when you went north. Its been a dry cold all weekend.

Ponti · 02-27-2002, 06:19 PM

I called Butler yesterday to get a stroker kit. Dave Butler says he no longer sells the Eagle rods, but now sells Scat Rods instead for $499.

I haven't heard much about Scat Rods. Any of you use them... and any pros or cons to them? Are they an upgrade or downgrade from Eagle?? Thanks

berrygoat · 03-01-2002, 10:10 PM

My experience with 6.80 Eagle rods on a chasis dyno is 6400 RPM's in a 455. The engine stopped making power above 6000 due to the heads. Last I checked, no holes in the block !!!

Jack Ferris · 03-04-2002, 08:58 PM

Oh crap I guess my house is for sale. LOL Im not to far from ya Bill. About 30 miles. Are you there for good?

SCOTT ESTERLE · 02-27-2002, 09:29 PM

I am doing the stroker also & i purchased the Scat rods & i don't see any problems with them the dimensions were right on. I haven't used them yet but we sell them at Summit under the Summit engine shop name & we have been for years with no problems.

Jack Ferris · 03-02-2002, 02:53 AM

Reher Morrison use Eagle rods is a lot of thier big blocks. I also know several people that use Scat rods in big and small block applications and I know for a fact these motors see much more rpm than Pontiacs.
Badbird- What do you mean by the rods moving to much?
An Eagle rod is rated around 850 hp with a standard rod bolt and 1000 with the ARP2000 upgrade. Whats the difference between a Scat and an Eagle rod???

Cobrabill · 03-05-2002, 10:08 AM

Rich-all i'm hearin' is how cold it is on the ranch at 0600.But it's colder here-TRUST ME.

Jack-at least a month,probably more.This place is ah,err,ummm-different.8)
If your gonna be in da 'hood-lemme know.

Larry Navarro · 02-28-2002, 10:02 PM

hmmm...butler not selling eagle rods???? ....hmmm....JBP isn't the sole source for the eagle crank anymore, either.
wasn't that a deal he and eagle made up front?
could be cause for serious discussion.

Tom Vaught · 03-02-2002, 01:07 PM

My experience with Eagle rods was with Marty Palbykin's 1600+ horsepower 400 cubic inch Twin
Turbo motor. He ran 7500 rpm with Eagle rods and
had no bearing or rod issues. Maybe The engine builder meant that with the motors "He" built the rods "moved" from the inside of the block to the outside of the block. Tom V.

Cobrabill · 03-05-2002, 10:15 AM

Lawrence,lawrence of Arabia.Was an english guy,who came to fight the Turkish.....meep-meep. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

David Holmberg · 02-28-2002, 10:10 PM

I think the change of part Co's goes along with the change of ownership of JBP. I don't think it says there is anything wrong with Eagle's parts.

New money behind the Company = new ideas and deals.

Jack Ferris · 03-02-2002, 02:35 PM

Tom- Marty told me he has broken Oliver rods but never an Eagle.

Ponti · 03-05-2002, 02:51 PM

For crying out loud, CAN WE STICK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND HERE- SCAT RODs...REMEMBER? LOL!

No, but really- I ordered the Crower 6.8 rods (bushed)today from Kauffman Racing...just didn't feel comfortable with SCAT, CAT, PROLINE, PROFORM or any other Eagle replica, especially with 500 plus Horse Power and 200 shot of Nitrous.

My question is this, Dave Butler I remember recommended going with ARP 2000 bolts(200,000 PSI) when I was asking him about the Eagle rods 2 weeks ago. Now the Crower rods come with ARP 180,000 PSI bolts...is that okay or should I upgrade to the 200,000 PSI bolts?
Or did Butler recommend the stronger bolts because the Eagles are bit weaker than the MIGHTY CROWERS? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] -Chris

Robert Williams · 02-28-2002, 10:21 PM

The Eagle and Butler deal is over. Soon if not now, the Pontiac Eagle Crankshafts will be available from any Eagle dealer.

Jeff Kinsler · 03-03-2002, 10:38 AM

Hi, he said that they distort alot. It could be he just doesn't like eagle stuff there are guys that just don't like them. Another buddy of mine has a 406 with a YS vortech supercharger and was spinning it to 6800 - 7000 RPM and never had a problem either, everytime he took them back to the same guy he said "are you still going to use these junk rods", Tory had them checked and they were right on specs for the last three years.
Sorry for the confusion earlier.
see ya

Robert Williams · 03-05-2002, 03:37 PM

I can't speak for the scat or eagle rods because i have never used them. I have the Crower Sportsman rods. You made a wise move by buying the Crowers. The 180,000 bolts are plenty strong with these rods. Also they are made in the good old USA. Also i have seen the Childs & Albert trackmaster rods for the pontiac engine. The C & A rods are a fine looking rod, as good as the Crowers but they are $100.00 more a set than the Crowers. The C & A rods are also made in the USA.

Jack Ferris · 02-28-2002, 11:03 PM

Ok so whats the difference between a SCAT and a CAT rod other than the "S" is missing? What about the ProLine or Protorque(not sure if those are right). To me the SCAT and Eagle's look the same.

WARPed · 03-03-2002, 11:41 AM

You will find that most shops that dont like them want you to use their superior line of rods. In most cases they havent worked directly with the product enough and are going off of hearsay.

Torment · 03-05-2002, 05:47 PM

I've run Ross pistons on Eagle rods for 31/2yrs now. 800hp+, 6500-7000rpm shifts with no problems. All bearings upon last inspection(last spring) were in perfect condition.

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