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Old 10-16-2006, 08:17 PM
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I can go to a ladder bar easily. I run long ladder bar slappers. I dont have the chips to have it converted now.

I want to run split leafs and caltracs. Maybe when the car comes apart to paint it in a few years I can convert to ladder bar.

My rear frame rails are untouched.

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Old 10-17-2006, 12:35 AM
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Old 10-17-2006, 03:34 AM
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i know first and second gens are different, but mine is mini-tubbed without touching the frame rails. i'm running 29.5x10.5W slicks on 15x10 draglites with stock length rear axles. how does my tire size compare to the 315 drag radials you guys are running?

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Old 10-17-2006, 07:30 AM
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When I compared 295 vs 315 the tire height was actually less for the 315 but an inch wider.

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Old 10-17-2006, 11:06 AM
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why not go to a ladder bar setup so you don't have to worry about the tires hitting the stock suspension?
Cause I love Caltracs.

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Old 10-17-2006, 11:02 PM
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The stock inner wheel wells can be moved in 2 ½” per side by cutting the inner section, relocating it inward and adding a strip of sheet metal to fill the gap. The frame section at the wheel well must be move to acomplish this.




The same process can be used to relocate the rear section of the original frame and leaf spring, the front section of the frame does not need to be moved.




As mentioned before the tank will no longer fit, a 10 gallon unit from a Vega (if they are still available) will bolt in place with room to spare, modifications are required to the top of the tank as well as the fuel inlet.




Sorry about the quality of the pictures, this 67 was modified in the 70’s, obviously in need of a face lift. This can be done with all original parts and a few strips of sheet metal. The shocks will need to be relocated inward. When completed, 12" wide slicks will fit with ease. I hope this helps.

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Old 10-18-2006, 10:50 AM
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That helps alot, thanks for the pics.

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Old 10-18-2006, 03:39 PM
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I beg to differ on the rear frame rails - mine are untouched on my Ventura. The inner wheel well has been sectioned and moved in even with the exisitng OEM fram rail.

I have more then enough space to fit a 315 tire IF it didn't hit the leaf spring.

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Old 10-18-2006, 03:55 PM
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Attached are some pictures I took of my 68 Firebird getting a Mini tub. I'll post more. DAve
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:08 PM
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This is some side shots, the tires I will be using and the scoop I will NOT be using. Dave
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Attached are some pictures I took of my 68 Firebird getting a Mini tub. I'll post more. DAve
Great pics, post as many as you can, those will be helpful. thanks.

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Old 10-18-2006, 04:10 PM
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This is some side shots, the tires I will be using and the scoop I will NOT be using. Dave
What size wheel and tire????????

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Old 10-18-2006, 04:12 PM
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Mel Eaves Vette Then And Mel Eaves Vette Now. No welds broke on the frame.
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:15 PM
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I think they are 275-50-15. They look big. It's been a long time since I bought them. It's taken 3 years to get this far.

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Old 10-18-2006, 04:24 PM
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I think they are 275-50-15. They look big. It's been a long time since I bought them. It's taken 3 years to get this far.
I ran that tire before with no mini tubbing.

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Old 10-18-2006, 04:34 PM
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The M/T radials Dave has look the same as mine. 275/60/15
I fit a 30" x 10.5" x 15" Hoosier radial slick right now with no tubing or moving anything in my 68. 4 1/2" BS rim with a 1/2" spacer. The 9" rear I have in it now is 3/4" total wider than the original 8.2 was.
I did go to the stock size Calvert Split leaf to do this as the multi leafs I had before had the body down an 1". I run slide a links as well. Stock shackles.

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Old 10-18-2006, 04:44 PM
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(Sidenote- Ron are you satified with the radial slick?)

Thanks

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Old 10-18-2006, 06:55 PM
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I beg to differ on the rear frame rails - mine are untouched on my Ventura. The inner wheel well has been sectioned and moved in even with the exisitng OEM fram rail. I have more then enough space to fit a 315 tire IF it didn't hit the leaf spring.John
I agree, with a stock body there is room to move the inner finder to the frame to create more tire space.

This is an example of what can be done if more room is needed. The rear of the frame rails and leaf springs were moved inward, they are now parallel with each other.


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OK, yes the rear of my spring is further out than the front and this is where the conflict is.

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Anybody running these?

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...115+4294848694

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