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Firebird 71 - Door Glass problem
Hello,
I have a question about the doorglass of my Firebird 71. When we install the glass, and i roll up the window to the top, the glass is falling to the inside of the car. We tried everything, but is doesn't seem to work. It looks like there is something wrong with the tracks, but i'm not sure. I'm strugling this issue for a long time Hope someone can help? Thank you. Grts Dillybird |
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Put the door panel on
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Hey Norwood
Even that doesn't work |
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The top of the door is slotted so the top of the track can be adjusted. Losen the bolts and move the tracks toward the inside of the car. This will pull the bottom of the window in this will make the top go out.
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They are complete to the inside. When i bought the car, the interior was not complete. there where no rubbers, door panels, etc... So i can not see on pictures how it was. The passenger side is better, and maybe the doorpanel can make ik right. But on the driver side its worse. Maybe the tracks are not the right ones. But they look the same
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What the guys are trying point out is that there are supposed to be felt lined adjusters which bolt to the top of the door;
You normally can only see them when the door panel is removed. All window adjustments have to be done with the door panel off. I can see from your pictures that the window glass is "flopping" to the inside too far. It's been many years since I've played with door glass, but once you start monkeying around in there, it should all (geometrically speaking) start to make sense. Good luck!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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Hi,
Yess iT all make sense, after hours of playing I Will certainly try to do something extra with the doorpanel like Norwood says. Many thx |
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I must say that the window is hard to crank to the top. IT looks like the front track is not in the right place. Maybe does me car not have the correct Doors
Looks like the metal of the door is shaped a bit on top of the door, so the glass can pass by, tomorrow I will take a Picture of it. |
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it shouldn't be hard to crank to the top - something has to be off...
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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On the drivers side I installed a new regulator from Classic industries. Maybe this can be something?
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I have the same issue. The glass falls inward, contacting the weather-stripping well before the door is close to shutting.
I tried adjusting the tracks inward, and moving the felt adjusters up against the glass, but this makes it incredibly hard to roll the windows up and down.
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"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction" 1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed 1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7 1977 Trans Am W72 Y82 1987 Grand National |
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Here you go, starts at post 328 step by step how to adjust the window.
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...KEEPAT&page=19
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ANDRE 1972 TRANS AM , UNDER RESTORATION http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=656067 1972 FIREBIRD FUTUR PROJECT http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=674551 1978 TRANS AM (PARTS CAR) MAYBE 1971 LEMANS T37 (PARTED OUT) 1976 TRANS AM (PARTED OUT) 1984 6000LE (SOLD) 2003 SILVERADO 1500 |
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This might be a bit more of a direct link to post #328
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...&postcount=328 Chad .
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1966 Ford F250 Deluxe Camper Special Ranger Custom Paint - San Jose plant http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/12...al-ranger.html 1966 Ford F250 4x4 Red/White 4-speed - San Jose plant 1966 Ford F250 4x4 White 4-speed - San Jose plant http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/11...-f250-4x4.html 1971 Trans Am White/Blue 4-speed limited options - Norwood plant http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=757496 |
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Quote:
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The top bolts are full to the inside, and still the window falls inside. That makes the window hard to crank. Maybe i will try again step by step. Thx for the many quotes! Appreciated! |
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Same exact problem on my 71. And the top rear corner of the glass brushes the c-pillar when the doors close and nicks the paint there. I hoped new door panels and a glass adjust would help, but no.
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"A MAN IS ONLY AS OLD AS THE WOMAN HE FEELS." -- Groucho Marx |
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It's really hard to find the exact problem. |
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If the glass touches anything other than the seal then yes, the adjustment is well out.
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It's normal to a degree for the glass to flop inward a bit when the door is opened. Maybe an inch or two at the top. When you close the door the window should not hit the pillar. In the body manual there are instructions on how to adjust fbody windows. Problem is you need these special blocks (Dealer tool)that you remove the weatherstrip and these blocks get closed in between the glass and the car where the weatherstrip goes while the door is closed and window up. You adjust while sitting inside the car. Then you replace weatherstrip.
If anybody reading this knows where I could purchase these outdated dealer only tools please let me know...I have part numbers if necessary.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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On the drivers side, my windowglass allmost hits the metal of the door on the frontside (mirror) when pulling up the glass.
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