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EFI tanks
Is anyone here familiar with and have comments about the Aeromotive pre-assembled Stealth Fuel Tank and their own designed pumps etc? And, as opposed to the un-assembled Holley Sniper tank.
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The Holley Sniper tank to my understanding is a rebranded Tanks Inc. tank which uses one of their pump modules. I have a Tanks Inc. tank in my 69 bird that has been there now for 4 seasons and over 10,000 miles. I haven't had a single issue with that tank.
I can't speak to the aeromotive tank as I've never seen it in person, only pictures. That brand has a high quality reputation however, so I would expect it to be a good buy as well.
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Just looked at the one for my car. It’s got the wrong ohm sending unit and it’s literally twice the price of my holley unit. Assembling the tank was not a big deal
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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Just got my Aeromotive EFI tank. Very happy with it, and I like the pump unit with foam collar to prevent fuel starvation. Ready to go out of the box.
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1964 Catalina 2+2 4sp, 421 Tri-power 1965 GTO, Roadster Shop chassis, 461, Old Faithful cam, KRE heads 305 CFM, Holley EFI, DIS ignition. 1969 GTO 467, Edelbrock 325 CFM, Terminator EFI 1969 Firebird Convertible |
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Thanks. The brand was not familiar to me but came recommended. Seems enough people here use it, and that says it all, for both brands. I ordered the Aeromotive EFI tank and it will go in with the Sniper throttle body over the next while. Last winter project for the winter, and hopefully do more driving than wrenching this summer.
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How well is it baffled and sumped? I’m switching my 65 to efi and was worried about uncovering the pick up on the Tanks Inc design. I’ll likely go with a Rick’s Tanks unit that looks to be better suited for street/strip applications.
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65 Lemans Street Car - 521, T400, 3.70 9". 10.13 @ 135. 3770 lbs. Drag Week ‘14, ‘15, ‘17 63 Lemans Race Car- 8.81 @ 151, 5.60 @ 123(SOLD) 67 Bonneville ragtop 74 Firebird - 455, e heads, TK0600 in process |
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Not a complaint, just an observation for second gen F-body use with Rick's Hot Rod Shop. I use their stainless steel fuel tank. Not suggesting it's applicable to their company alone but due to the SHAPE of the tank itself on mine the fuel level sending unit reads full for quite some time as the fuel level drops. Then as the fuel level drops lower it goes down quick. Therefore you go quite a distance in miles before the fuel gauge starts to comes of the full mark. For me when my gauge inside the car reads 1/4-tank I make sure there is a gas station not far away if I'm out cruising in the countryside. I actually set the trip odometer to zero and pay more attention to it rather than the fuel gauge itself.
Picture of shape here: https://www.jegs.com/i/Ricks-Hot-Rod.../3101/10002/-1 . .
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'70 TA / 505 cid / same engine but revised ( previous best 10.63 at 127.05 ) Old information here: http://www.hotrod.com/articles/0712p...tiac-trans-am/ Sponsor of the world's fastest Pontiac powered Ford Fairmont (engine) 5.14 at 140 mph (1/8 mile) , true 10.5 tire, stock type suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoJnIP3HgE Last edited by Steve C.; 03-09-2019 at 03:40 PM. |
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It's a stock repro style tank, but it uses a large foam chamber to act as a sump surrounding the pump pick up. Some of the Pro Touring guys around here use it and it works well for autocross.
Here is a short video showing what it looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=Jv1MMlieehI
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1964 Catalina 2+2 4sp, 421 Tri-power 1965 GTO, Roadster Shop chassis, 461, Old Faithful cam, KRE heads 305 CFM, Holley EFI, DIS ignition. 1969 GTO 467, Edelbrock 325 CFM, Terminator EFI 1969 Firebird Convertible |
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And apparently it is exceptionally quiet. For the Aeromotive pumps themselves, some of the performance 1/4 mile racers use them around here.
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The Rick's stuff is nice, and you can have them install options, like additional baffles, cell foam, and corner pickups. Not inexpensive tho.
I did a tank for mine years back, and designed a large sump, with 1-way check valves into the sump. Also had some 'wing' baffles installed, and the return dumped into the corner of the sump. I posted plan drawing here somewhere. The Tanks Inc tanks have a smaller sump, and, with a larger pump, feeding a larger engine, it can suck the sump dry, especially on long sweeping turns. You can mitigate that yourself my adding cell foam or hydramat, but keep in mind cell foam is only good for a few years, and needs to be changed. I too have had issues with the sending units, especially the crappy round ball float types Tanks includes. I see now they offer options for senders, like the tube senders, but even those are sketchy. The performance is as Steve C points out, hangs around full or so, then drops sharply, making for a panic refill-searching event. There are other senders, that work off capacitance, that are generally much better, but you are limited to lengths in 1/2" increments. You have to measure the tank before you order. If you get real close to the bottom of the tank, if you dent it, or due to poor venting suck the floor up, it will short. If you order it too short, you won't get a level reading below X, maybe as high as a 1/4 tank. So you have the be aware of that at least before you use one. Some aftermarket gauges allow you to tailor full-empty range, so you can compensate some. Would be more of an issue with OE gauges I would guess. https://www.speedhut.com/ecommerce/p...al-Sender-(3-5 EDIT: On the 442, I used an SW sender, which has a rectangular float, and that, you can get to 'swing' a greater range. Think I posted that part number somewhere here too. Here it is: https://venomclassics.com/product/cl...ing-unit-sn33/ .
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. 1970 GTO Judge Tribute Pro-Tour Project 535 IA2 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=760624 1971 Trans Am 463, 315cfm E-head Sniper XFlow EFI, TKO600 extreme, 9", GW suspension, Baer brakes, pro tour car https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...ght=procharger Theme Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKAS...ature=youtu.be |
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I bit the bullet(and threw money to the wind) and ordered a Ricks Tank with the option for 2 Walbro 525 pumps. I only need 1 pump at my current hp level, but nice to have if I upgrade to a power adder down the road or if the pump craps out on Drag Week I can swap over to the other as a back up.
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65 Lemans Street Car - 521, T400, 3.70 9". 10.13 @ 135. 3770 lbs. Drag Week ‘14, ‘15, ‘17 63 Lemans Race Car- 8.81 @ 151, 5.60 @ 123(SOLD) 67 Bonneville ragtop 74 Firebird - 455, e heads, TK0600 in process |
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Maybe I am missing the point but I don’t see that’s wrong with the tanks inc/ holley sniper tanks. Yes you have to setup the fuel sending unit but they are literally half the price of the Aeromotive tanks. I’m not paying twice the money for an assembly step I can do in 30 minutes
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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I will say this though. The holley sniper fuel injection setup is rated to 650hp but the 255 lph pump they include is only rated to 550. I will have to look for any fuel starvation signs when I get my car running.
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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Not sure where you’re seeing double the cost. I just bought my Aeromotive tank delivered to my door with a 340/Lph pump assembled complete for $500. The Holley is more expensive, and the Tanks Inc is around $480 w/o shipping for a smaller capacity pump.
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1964 Catalina 2+2 4sp, 421 Tri-power 1965 GTO, Roadster Shop chassis, 461, Old Faithful cam, KRE heads 305 CFM, Holley EFI, DIS ignition. 1969 GTO 467, Edelbrock 325 CFM, Terminator EFI 1969 Firebird Convertible |
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I’m going off the price on their website. It’s almost twice the price and it says it comes with a 90 OHM sending unit and I need a 30
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468/TKO600 Ford thru bolt equipped 64 Tempest Custom. Custom Nocturne Blue with black interior. |
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Only thing I see that I don't like is the Aeromotive appears to come with -6 (3/8) outlet inlet at the pump. I'm not a huge fan of the foam in the tank either, don't think that would last forever.
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1964 Catalina 2+2 4sp, 421 Tri-power 1965 GTO, Roadster Shop chassis, 461, Old Faithful cam, KRE heads 305 CFM, Holley EFI, DIS ignition. 1969 GTO 467, Edelbrock 325 CFM, Terminator EFI 1969 Firebird Convertible |
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Great info at the right time. I'm also putting a Sniper setup in a 2nd gen T/A and was just fixing to ask about tanks. I was going to order the Sniper tank at almost 600$ but thought I'd look for input first. Glad I did.
Woa.... Just looked at Aero website and checked pricing 500 for the tank, ok but 280 for shipping ugh Last edited by T/A addict; 03-12-2019 at 11:28 AM. |
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For me the Holley tank availability became a repeating problem for whatever reason. The Holley throttle body showed up quickly though. And the Aeromotive tank showed up quickly. From reviews both seem great, although the Aeromotive was a bit pricier. I was into the project too deep and the delays were becoming problematic. By the way, the tank looks very well built. Hopefully the install is a charm.
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My experience with the Tanks Inc. and Walbro 400 pump and Tanks Inc. sending unit in my '81 TA...
The Tank is good quality. 3 issues however.. The range of the sending unit's float arm is very short as the tank is not very deep. Guage is moving all over the place and therefore you cannot trust it. The 6AN connectors are rubbing on the trunk floor once Tank is completely installed. This results in the filler neck and cap sitting a bit high. BFH required. Filler neck connects to tank with a rubber sleeve and hose clamps. This loosens over time, so be sure to position clamps so you can tighten without having to drop tank. |
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