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Old 04-21-2017, 04:31 PM
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I decided to do an upgrade to H4 headlights and add a headlight relay to my 65 GTO The conversion went great with no issues. The lights fit perfect and required no modifications. All I had to do to the relay harness was to extend the passenger side wires by about 4". I am sure that I probably could have routed the wires differently and it would have been fine, but I wanted them to run where all the other wires run under the radiator support. The headlights actually look stock, except for the blueish color due too the bulbs. The wiring harness seems to be the same that others sell for double the price. It all was very easy to install and only required a couple of hours of my time.

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Old 04-25-2017, 12:51 PM
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Looks good I did the same lens conversion except I used HID bulbs instead. The HID kit came with the relay harness. I like the new style LED bulbs on superbrightled my buddy put in his truck. I'm going to prob make the switch because I am having ballast issues with the hid(they were just a cheap set)





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Those look really nice. I am glad I did the conversion. I understand the dust. Mine just came back from getting painted and body work and I have kept it uncovered so I can work on it. It is covered in pollen. Oh well, I will get it cleaned up once it is all back together.
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how are your headlights working out for you? any issues after a few years? I am looking at doing the same thing to my car in the spring.

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how are your headlights working out for you? any issues after a few years? I am looking at doing the same thing to my car in the spring.
I really donít drive it at night but the headlights were a great addition. They installed without having to do any modifications and are a lot brighter. Just be sure to install a headlight relay because the stock light switch wonít handle the load. The relay is easy to install and makes the system a lot better.

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The H4 conversion is a great move, as is doing a relay setup.

With the H4 housings, you can pretty much use a multitude of bulbs, it's about the most common out there.

All I can say is if you do go this route, get the glass housings. The PAL ones I used were very inexpensive, and would recommend them to anyone. The only thing you need to mod is the bucket, for the larger center, and the reference tab.

For my 4 headlight setups, I buy hi/lo bulbs for all 4, and wire the lo and hi elements to run when on hi. That gives you 8 elements as opposed to 4. It's bright.


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The H4 conversion is a great move, as is doing a relay setup.

With the H4 housings, you can pretty much use a multitude of bulbs, it's about the most common out there.

All I can say is if you do go this route, get the glass housings. The PAL ones I used were very inexpensive, and would recommend them to anyone. The only thing you need to mod is the bucket, for the larger center, and the reference tab.

For my 4 headlight setups, I buy hi/lo bulbs for all 4, and wire the lo and hi elements to run when on hi. That gives you 8 elements as opposed to 4. It's bright.


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Yes, the glass lenses are a lot better than the plastic ones, that is what I used and they look very stock. I don't remember having to modify the buckets, the new lenses fit them fine without any issues.
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Yes, there's usually a 'nub' on the lamp housing that locates it so the lens is pointed correctly, since usually the lens is directional. As in, side to side, up and down of the light projection.

I guess some don't come with that, and it's up to the installer to mount them right.

The PAL ones I have on the 442 have a large 'cup' where the bulb mounts, with a retaining bail wire. Those required me to hog out the center of the mounting cup. Not a big deal. Also had to relocate the alignment 'nub'. I did a relay setup on it to unload the dash switch, and that too gives you brighter lights (zero voltage drop). I have halogens in them.

So the ones on the GTO tribute are the Octane brand, and, I honestly can't recall if I had to doctor the mount housings. I will have to go back and look now. I loaded those with LED bulbs, so didn't have to mod the forward light harness for relays.

The PAL ones I believe accept several types of bulbs, maybe that's the difference?

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Here's some pics from the 442 install, the AutoPAL housings, the bucket mod, and the wiring for all 4 elements on Hi.

You can see the relay setup in the last pic...
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Yes, there's usually a 'nub' on the lamp housing that locates it so the lens is pointed correctly, since usually the lens is directional. As in, side to side, up and down of the light projection.

I guess some don't come with that, and it's up to the installer to mount them right.

The PAL ones I have on the 442 have a large 'cup' where the bulb mounts, with a retaining bail wire. Those required me to hog out the center of the mounting cup. Not a big deal. Also had to relocate the alignment 'nub'. I did a relay setup on it to unload the dash switch, and that too gives you brighter lights (zero voltage drop). I have halogens in them.

So the ones on the GTO tribute are the Octane brand, and, I honestly can't recall if I had to doctor the mount housings. I will have to go back and look now. I loaded those with LED bulbs, so didn't have to mod the forward light harness for relays.

The PAL ones I believe accept several types of bulbs, maybe that's the difference?

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I usually use four dual-beam lamps on my vehicles with quad lights (changing two sockets to 3-wire ones). But my purpose is just to provide more light on low beam.

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