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Old 07-14-2020, 11:24 AM
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Lol. Yes that is confusing. That must be old stock from speedpro back before Topline ran Hylift Johnson and Johnson was Johnson. Or Hylift Johnson was JOHNSON, and Johnson was the earlier Johnson. Lol

The current Johnson brand lifters does not make a Pontiac oil band in a flat tappet hydraulic(as far as I know the all have the Chevy oil bands. Some retailers that 951R is $13-$14 a piece. The lowest price I have seen is a little $8-$9 a piece. Kind of a big swing in price. Over $200 for a speedpro hft lifter....hmmm.

I bought some Rhoads a couple days ago and the next day I was strolling through Jegs and found I could have save nearly $40 on my purchase. Jegs is noticeable cheaper on Rhoads lifters for some reason.

Seeing the Johnson name on a box (Johnson =quality) and knowing Speed pro corporate likes to have stuff made in foreign countries with less QC, reminds me of the scene in the Movie Tommy Boy “why they put guaranteed on the box”.


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Old 07-14-2020, 01:36 PM
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I have trouble with the two "Johnson" names.

I prefer to say
Johnson Lifters made in Muskegon Michigan
and Johnson Lifters made in a back area of a business in the southern Detroit area.

The Johnson Lifters (Muskegon) are the ones that Rhoads Lifters buys and modifies
with the internal slot on the side of the plunger.

The Johnson Lifters, (Detroit) make Roller Hydraulic Lifters apparently.

But Johnson Lifters (Muskegon) has gone thru a few purchases over the lears but still makes the same USA quality lifters that they have for the last 60 years. Now Johnson Hylift.

I recently bought two sets of Rhoads Lifters and the slight different in price did not bother me one bit.
They were at my door a few days later.

So That is MY opinion of the two "Lifter" companies called Johnson.

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Old 07-14-2020, 01:51 PM
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Ah i finally got answer from Hy-lift Jhonson and succesfully bought myself a set of lifters!

Now the wait is on!

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Old 07-15-2020, 12:41 PM
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Karck, Please post a picture of one when you receive them, Thanks

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Old 07-17-2020, 08:01 AM
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Hylift Johnson Lifters, superb finish, plunger oil hole has only small burr that is not flaking out. Its clearly been cleaned well.

It has the metering plate and pushrod cup bottom metering valley that lets oiling ALL THE TIME to rockers.

Im happy now, i will upgrade them by adding circlip/seger lock instead the paperclip.

Edit: Ordered these thru their contact form, they dont have store so you need contact them.



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Old 07-17-2020, 08:14 AM
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Glad to see you finally got yourself a set of Hy-Lifts. I knew they would treat you well.

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Old 07-17-2020, 10:14 AM
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Glad to see you finally got yourself a set of Hy-Lifts. I knew they would treat you well.
X2. Glad that you were able to get your Hy-Lifts finally. Karck, hope the rest of your build goes well.

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Old 07-17-2020, 01:55 PM
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Which is which in your photo?

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Old 07-18-2020, 02:27 AM
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Which is which in your photo?
One in the front that is completely dissassembled is the Hylift. Other one at the back is china.

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Well, hopefully in the near future those virus lifters will no longer be offered.

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Old 07-21-2020, 04:19 PM
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Well, hopefully in the near future those virus lifters will no longer be offered.

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Thats is big wish, but lets hope.

Meanwhile, i have primed and tested the lifters and they work perfectly. Lots of oil on rockers. No need to turn the engine, like you would need for the china lifters.

All is now set and im building my test stand. Trying to start and run the cam in this week!

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Old 09-09-2020, 10:45 PM
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Here’s some pics from tonight. One had a black deposit in it that I removed with a q-tip. Possibly fine grinding/polishing waste? It left a black stain on the metal (see pic). There was one larger visible flake in the residue and it appeared to be non-magnetic. Roughly 2ml of of what seemed like light machine oil in them.
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