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Old 03-10-2007, 12:25 AM
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Thumbs up 2004~2006 GTO track times

Here's some times from LS2GTO, some totally stock times at the bottom.
Not bad numbers for a 3800 lb car with independent suspension and small tires. Still can be improved.
ET LIST LS1/LS2 stock and modified

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Top NA LS2 ET's - Modified - Engine Work (i.e. Head, Cam, etc):

1) Badgto 10.96@122.7 Cartek stage 2 H/C, 3200 tc, FAST, LT
2) YellowGTO05 11.52 @ 116.72 HPE heads, cam, LSX Intake, 3600 stall
3) sjones99 11.658@117.62 240/244 cam afr 225 heads 3.91 gear k&n cai
4) Open Wheel 11.725 @ 116.06 (PB) LPE H/C, 3.91, 3600 stall
5) miami GTO 11.731 @ 114.08 Cartek H/C
6) paco loco 11.777 @ 119.13 Precision port heads, 232/232 .595 / .601 114 kooksLT
7) Jared H 11.929 @113.56 H/C, 3200tc, LT
8) profarm-goat 12.017 @ 111.70 HPE S-Cam
9) Freedom Fighter 12.107 @ 115.70 HPE-c cam, kooks LT, underdrive pulley
10) rcsfastmonte 12.11 at 114 AFR 205 heads, 224/228 cam
11) Hawkeye 12.13 @ 113.94 MPH AZPS02 cam, FAST LSX, 3600 stall, SW LT
12) GTO1369 12.176 @ 110.15 K&N CAI, comp 224/228, dynatech LT,3400
13) 2kforumula 12.27@118 AFR225's, Kooks L/T, Fast, GMM, 03AZPS cam
14) tanglewood 12.520 @ 114.24 MPH

LS2 Cam only class, Engine must retain OE 243 heads, OE valves, drop in style valve springs (ie Comp 921 springs) ok, titanium retainers ok.

1) housewolf 11.328 @ 118.46 HPE S-Cam, Vig 3K, ARH LTs, FAST 90, Corsa Sport, Nitto
2) Fraggercrue 11.495@115.84 F14 cam, Yank 3600, Hardcore Intake, Kooks 1 3/4" LTs
3) SSmoked 11.714 @ 117.47 LPE Intake, FAST90, AZPS03 cam, SW Headers no cats
4) barkingspud 11.718 @ 113.42 231/237, FAST, SW LT, 3600 tc, 3.91
5) Flash99 11.807 @ 117.44 Pacesetter LT,Fast 90,ripshift, MT DR 3.91
6) Unknown 12.005 @ 114.750 MPH ASPS02 cam, Fast 90, 3600 stall, SW LT
7) profarm-goat 12.017 @ 111.70 HPE S-Cam
8) Hawkeye 12.13 @ 113.94 MPH AZPS02 cam, FAST LSX, 3600 stall, SW LT
9) ToddO 12.17 @ 113.95 FTI Cam 228/232 .612/.600 111, FAST 90, Kooks LT
10) Rich 12.170 @ 112.37 SLP LT's, 224/227 .563/.569 114 LSA, 3200 Vig
11) Joey D 12.24 @ 110.13 FTI Cam, Fuddle Stall, DT LTs w/cats, cutout
12) Smittys05GTO 12.38@109.5 AZPS01 cam, 3600 stall, FAST, Headers, MT DRs
13) Bluegoat06 12.46@111.38, 1.93 60',SW LT's,TSP 228R 112 LSA,LPE,X/mufflers
14) HRJ 12.50 @ 115.05 MPH HPE S Cam
15) Slowgoat 12.53 @ 107.3 LT,3200 stall, 3.91 gear, Cai, tune m/t dr's

LS1 ENGINE Modifieded CLASSES
Top NA ET's - Modified - Engine Work (i.e. Head, Cam, etc):

1) JET NITRO 11.08 @ 123.23 Cartek H/C stage 4X, 2800 Stall Converter,Kooks,3.91
2) MooresGTO 11.334 @ 118.10 228/232 cam, TSP heads, 4400 TC,3.91 Bogarts
3) EDC 11.731 @ 114.70 AFR heads, FTI cam, stock shortblock, bogarts w/ MT DRs
4) Perdieu 11.755 @ 118.20 mph TSP ported 243 heads, comp 232/234cam, 3.91
5) hardcore 11.856@116.79 LS6 crate engine LTs, 224/.581 cam, hardcore intake
6) Bone 11.90 @ 117.33 - 205 AFRs, stock shortblock, Bogarts DRs, 3.91 gears
7) AUGTO 11.942 @ 114.51 mph gomer cam, PRC heads, 3200 stall,3.91
8)GTO1_OHIO 11.983 @ 114.49 AFR205's,FTI cam,Fast intake,Vig 3200,245/45 Nitto
9) GTWhoa 12.12 @ 114.48 MPH 224 comp cam, 5.3L heads, SW L/Ts, ASP, nitto DRs
10) scot254 12.23 @ 109.41; 238/240 cam, patriot heads, Vig 3600
11) greeny5005 12.28 @ 117.72 EDC cam 236/240, ETP 214 heads, GMM, spec 3.
12) Rob 12.323 @ 112.64 GMPP LS6 heads, LPE GT2-3, SLP Pulley, Dynatech LT
13) WRP 12.403@115.08 ET 5.3 heads, HPE S cam, FAST90, nittos


LS1 Cam only class; Engine must have 241 heads, unmodified and OE valves.
1) JETNITRO 11.870 @ 115.68 MPH 2800stall, kooks LTs, 222/226 cam, 3.91 gear
2) MNR-O 11.919 @ 114.03 3000 stall 3.73 gears 212/220, MT DRs
3) facetediamond 12.11 @ 112.52 G5X3 cam, 921 springs, 3600 converter
3) bluGTO 12.148 @ 112.00 mph comp XR275HR, kooks lt, Vector tune, 3.91
4) 04gtod 12.25 @ 111.00 kooks, 228/228 112 cam, 2800 vigilate
5) qwkgoat 12.44 @ 109.42 SI3 Cam, 3200 Fuddle, JBA Shorties/Catless Mids
6) LS1goat04 12.461 @ 106.89 238/242 cam 3600 stall kooks LTs
7) svede1212 12.505 @ 112.07 Streetsweeper HT cam, SD tune
8) Rob 12.57@111.17 GT2-3 LPE cam, ripshift, bo white tb, nittos
9) Black04A4 12.61 @ 107.86 220/224 cam, 3000 TC, dynatech LT
10) Doc GTO 12.68 @ 112.00 F10-12 cam, JBA shorty headers, JBA mid pipes
11) 6SpeedGto 12.75@108 FTI cam 228/236 614/615, JBA headers/midpipes


Australian members- modified class
1)TCB 57 11.28 @ 123 MPH - 410CID
2) oztrack 11.414 @ 116.91mph

Top NA LS2 ET's - Modified - Bolt Ons / Tune Only: (must retain unmodified factory designated cylinder heads (no porting) camshaft and short block)

1) speedshifter 11.95 @ 112 kooks 1 7/8, borla, K&N CAI, ported tb, UDP
2) Old_Goat 12.126 @ 110.61 LPE CAI, X pipe, cutout, ARH 1 7/8 LT, 3200 vig,hpe tune
3) Caveman 12.173 @ 111.59 Kooks catted, X pipe-stock mufflers, LPE cai, Fuddle 3000
4) Bad GTO 12.326 @ 108.75 MPH vig 3200 stall, kooks LT
5) Kruul 12.349 @ 111.69 MPH yank 3200, LPE cai, SW LT no cats, magnaflow cb
6) woodnutz 12.36 @ 112.51 Kooks LT, spintech catback, LPE cai
7) MacDogg 12.424@110 LPE cai, kooks, tune, A4
8) slowgoat 12.45 @ 109.28 LPE CAI,kooks LT,corsa,3200 TC,3.91
9) Beddow 12.493@112.24 SW headers no cats, Borla CB, ported TB, LPE
10) Housewolf 12.554 @ 107.77 LPE CAI, Nitto DRs, ARH LTs, Vig 3K, corsa,HPE tune
11) TM2FLI 12.60 @ 110.41 MPH
12) Hookmechanic 12.64 @ 111.41 MPH - retired, god bless.
13) steelerguy 12.685 @ 113.46 MPH
14) Sappy96 12.767 @ 109.93 mph Kooks 1 7/8"LT, Corsa, CS CAI, ripshift


LS1 Top NA ET's - Modified - Bolt Ons / Tune Only: ("unopened motor", must retain unmodified factory designated cylinder heads (no porting) camshaft and short block)

1) littleGTO 12.540 @ 113.10 LPE intake, SLP tb,LPE 160 t-stat, KooksLT,GMM
2) Rjgto 12.75 @ 105 mph LT, 3500 stall, 9" slicks, Nick Williams tune
3) Svede1212 12.803 @ 109.56 MPH SS Intake, GMM Rip Shift, SLP LTs, DRs, SD Tune
4) Galen 12.832 @ 109.88 MPH
5) faceteddiamond 12.839 @ 106.11MPH KN cai, predator, SW LT, borla cb, yank 3600
6) Blitzu 12.864@107.41 MPH -retired
7) Gilty1 12.894 @ 108.33 RWTD tune, SW LT, SLP LM II, new era cai, ASP pulley
8) Perdieu 12.907 @ 106.11 MPH Bogart/DRs
9) GMH GTO 12.987 @ 107.13 SW LT, Ripshift, 3.91 gear, MT DR, SLP pulley
10) silvergoat04 13.009 @ 106.63MPH Kooks LTs, Borla CB, K&N CAI, nitto
11) Doc GTO 13.016 @ 107.69 MPH
12) AnoxieGTO 13.065 @ 106.39 MPH
13) bluGTO 13.066 @ 105.18 MPH
14) WRP 13.20 @ 105.18 Kooks LT, Borla cb, koni shocks, ripshift




LS2 super stock
What isn't allowed:headers, aftermarket torque converters. No gear lower then 3.46.

What is allowed: Tuning, exhaust mods after manifolds, underdrive pulley, shifters, ported intake manifold, drag radials, CAI, Throttle body, stock 3.46 gears only.

1) Lord Vador 12.52 @ 111.091 MPH removed MAF screen, no mufflers, air bags, DRs
2) 8100hammer 12.60@111.21 A4 tune only
3) fjpelkey2001 12.700 @ 116.334 MPH K&N drop in, catback, stock tires, gutted cats
4) hellhammer 12.76 @ 108.5 MPH headlight removed and DRs
5) Joe6pt0 12.807 @ 107.94 MPH borla cb, tune
6) speedracer33 12.830@107.81 P&P TB, Ported Intake, Nitto DR, formato Tune
7) ironmanca 12.837 @ 108.60 Ripshift, Nitto Drag Radials, Drag bags
8) 05GTOM6 12.838 @ 108.31 MPH - MTs, CAI
9) SloNlo_350 12.870 @ 109.51 MPH RWTD dyno tune
10) Vhaulin 12.90 @ 107 tune, DRs
11) '91 formula 12.916@107.58 volant cai, MAF descreened, chris white tune
12) TJT 12.916 @ 107.1 mph GMM ripshift, magnaflow cb, nittos, drag bags
13) spicered06 12.93@ 107.7 Ripshift, KN drop in, drag bags.
14) floman 12.932 @ 105.23 Nitto drag radials
15) btrotter 12.949 @ 110.20


LS1 Super Stock
same rules as LS2 super stock.
1) 910gto 12.996 @ 106.89 cai,cut outs,creech tuned,nitto dr
2) notgetleft 12.997 @ 110.09 RT midpipes, CS MAF pipe, stock tires
3) Torrid6spd 13.081 @ 107.62 MPH LPE cai, SLP LM
4) ben 13.174 @105.73 K&N drop in, pedders springs, drag raidials
5) GTO831 13.230 @ 104.33 K&N cai, Formato tune.
6) rushhour 13.268@105.41 2 Hole Stock Box, own MAF Tube, Predator Tune, Ported TB
7) Georgiarocker 13.4@105 K&N CAI only no tune.
8) BigRedGoat 13.421@103.62 K&N CAI, Flowmaster Cat-back exhaust, Predator Tune






LS2 Stock Classes:
1) NYTIGER 12.920 @ 109.40 MPH
2) Boilermaker GTO 12.9299 @ 106.89 MPH
3) 05torridred60 12.971 @ 108 MPH - SAP mufflers
4) jumbojet 12.974 @ 108.08 MPH
5) BlackSheep 12.98 @ 108 MPH
6) GTOboss 13.007 @ 108.52mph
7) KYGTO 13.035 @ 108.96 MPH
8) Judgethis05 13.036 @ 108.72
9) hookmechanic 13.074 @ 106.76 MPH
10) SloNlo 13.086 @ 108.75 MPH
11) TheCamel 13.112 @ 108.49 MPH
12) BadGTO 13.14 @ 104.99 MPH
13) Lord Vador 13.132 @ 108.85 MPH
14) Helicoprion 13.20@106.9
15) Joey D 13.236 @ 104.79 MPH

LS1 Stock classes:
1) H82BSLOGTO 13.09 @ 105.00
2) ls1gto 13.10 @ 107.3 MPH
3) TRU GTO 13.136 @ 105.76 MPH
4) GTwhoa 13.15 @ 105.35 MPH
5) nutiger 13.245 @ 104.86 MPH
6) GTONEWB 13.248 105.99 MPH
7) slammin86 13.27 @ 105.46 MPH
8) nikivee 13.3 @ 104.00 MPH
9) 1meangoat 13.307 @ 104.61 MPH
10) Nmbr1GMfan 13.390 @ 104.54 MPH
11) win98nogood 13.393 @ 105.10 MPH

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Old 03-20-2007, 02:51 PM
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I don't think the "stock" times for the LS 1 are unrealistic if they are using stock tires. Mine took a computer tune to run consistent 13.6-70s in good air, and still spins easily. The mph they are turning is way above what the HP stock even dynoed fits. Somebody's fudging.
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:44 PM
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Hemmings Muscle Machine Aug. 2004 has the LS1 with auto going 13.8@104 mph. Some of the mph seem a little high, more like LS2 mph.
Just copy and pasted some info on the Monaro's times with some mods and stock, I haven't seen all the time slips but I know most are legit.
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I've been running 13.6-13.7@106-107mph with mine and it's stock aside from a Superchips flash. The best I've run so far is 13.49@107 but that was with cool dense air. Last time out at the track it was significantly warmer (75 degrees instead of 60). The best I ran was 13.7@102 with a 2.1 60' on stock tires.

A couple of the guys in our group are running anywhere between 11 flat to low 12s - but they aren't exactly stock. A couple are supercharged, but the fastest one (11 flat) is a naturally aspirated LS1 6 speed with a healthy shot of nitrous.
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On a chassis dyno day before my LS1 Edit tune my 04 made as much hp 280s as many 04 s with air cleaner/intakes and a few bolt ons. In that form in hot air it ran 99mph and times were al over the place because of torque manegment. With the tune it picked up 10 hp and good air ran the 13.66 @ 101.

106-107 seems more like what the stock LS2 cars here are turning, and more than what the chassis dyno numbers on stock 04s should be able to run for their HP.

We rarely get the same good air you N. CA guys get here in Texas!
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My car dynoed at 300hp even on a DynoJet. With the Superchips flash it was the same horsepower with 14(?) ft/lb more torque. I haven't had it back on the dyno since I installed the JBAs and cat back. I'm waiting for my catted mid-pipes before I do it again.

If the air is cool, my trap speed is almost always 106-107 in Sacramento (which I think is sea level). I thought there was an error the first time it happened, but I have 5 or 6 time slips with that trap speed. I agree, 100-102 seems to be the average for a stock LS1. That's what I was running last week at Sac , and that's what I ran the one time I raced at Infineon. The weather was identical those two times (mid 70's and sunny).

I ran the 13.49 on a 60 degree overcast day in the late afternoon around 4:00 in November. I think my 60' was around 2.2 so I could have probably even improved on that time! The weather/air temp makes a big difference!
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I don't think the "stock" times for the LS 1 are unrealistic if they are using stock tires. Mine took a computer tune to run consistent 13.6-70s in good air, and still spins easily. The mph they are turning is way above what the HP stock even dynoed fits. Somebody's fudging.

No fudging. My FACTORY STOCK 04 ran a 13.3@104mph. This was back in March 2004 with very good air.
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Not trying to start an arguement but using a calculator 104 and a 3850 Lb car(weight of mine at the track) that plugs in at 355 hp at the rear wheels.

107 is 387 hp.

Both more than Pontiac advertizes or that stock ones chassis dyno at for LS1s. Also a standard will mph more than an A4 due to less loss. I'm comparing A4s.
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Not trying to start an arguement but using a calculator 104 and a 3850 Lb car(weight of mine at the track) that plugs in at 355 hp at the rear wheels.

107 is 387 hp.

Both more than Pontiac advertizes or that stock ones chassis dyno at for LS1s. Also a standard will mph more than an A4 due to less loss. I'm comparing A4s.
Don't know what to tell you then. I always put more stock in real world numbers rather than what something on paper says.
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just got back from track.my auto 04 ran 13.72-13.75 and 13.77.this car is stock from the factory with absolutely no mods.mph was 100.86
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