[tom s]

Actually had no REAL info of what actually came on the car so just shot craps and picked what the assm manual said it should be.Tom

[bulletpruf]

Originally Posted by psttoastee

Tom,

Beautiful job so far. I have an Antique Gold Judge, 4 speed, with gold interior. Would love to have a twin, but the wife would kill me.

Question - My Judge had the olive stripes from factory, and when I had it painted in 1982, I went with the Blue-Yellow-Red, because I didn't know any better than to deviate from stock, and because I thought it looked cooler. I see that you chose the black stripes, any reason why? I have tried for years to get a real answer as to what stripes go with what color car, and have had dozens of answers, nome of them firm, even from Paul Zazzarine and Jim Wangers, at a table together in 2005!

Thanks!

Jay

Jay -

Per the info below, the Antique Gold cars were supposed to come with the black stripe, but according to the 2d owner, it came with the olive stripe when he bought it in 1970. From what I can tell, it wasn't uncommon to deviate from the recommended color stripe.

Scott


BODY COLOR-----1969-----STRIPE/DECAL COLOR
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limelight green
midnight green
verdero green
mayfair maize................olive
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starlight black
cameo white
warwick blue
liberty blue
crystal turquoise
palladium silver
carousel red..................blue
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expresso brown
antique gold
burgundy
matador red
champagne...................black
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-------------------1970-----------------
palamino copper
baja gold
paliside green
pepper green
verdero green
sierra yellow
granada gold.................yellow
----------------------------------------
starlight black
polar white
palladium silver...............blue
-----------------------------------------
burgundy
cardinal red..................black
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bermuda blue
atoll blue
mint turquoise
orbit orange..................orange
-----------------------------------------
stripes were multi-colored and were identified by their prominent color...
---------------1969----------------------
-----------(long stripe)-----------------
white/yellow/OLIVE
yellow/red/BLUE
white/red/BLACK
----------------1970---------------------
-----------(eyebrow stripe)--------------
blue/ORANGE/pink
yellow/BLUE/red
yellow/BLACK/red
green/YELLOW/white

colors are listed from the outer color to the inner color. These were the factory recommended combinations, but I believe any color stripe could be ordered with any color as a special order.

[tom s]

TTT,am into the car for about 34K now.Tom

[Ram4king]

Everybody always uses that color chart for judge stripes and its dead wrong.. Ive had these cars in all colors since i was 15 yrs old and had most colors. Liberty blue and crystal Turq and starlight black and warwick cars always had black/red and white stripes. Antique gold,mayfair and goldenrod cars always had the olive stripes. Its a shame that whoever put this chart out yrs ago gave alot of people bad info.

[69 RA GTO]

I agree, that judge stripe color chart is absolute CRAP. I too have seen several original Judge's thru the years and am really tired of seeing wrong color stripes going on Judges as people are going to start to think the wrong color stripes are "NOW" the correct ones as they came new. Maybe a thread should be started to try to help??? Sorry for the rant Tom and good luck with your sale as you did a GREAT job on the resto

[geogolfx]

Originally Posted by Ram4king

Everybody always uses that color chart for judge stripes and its dead wrong.. Ive had these cars in all colors since i was 15 yrs old and had most colors. Liberty blue and crystal Turq and starlight black and warwick cars always had black/red and white stripes. Antique gold,mayfair and goldenrod cars always had the olive stripes. Its a shame that whoever put this chart out yrs ago gave alot of people bad info.

Piggyback on your YZ engine thread, My Carousel Red 69, Black/red/white stripes, Still found tattered remnants of the originals when I got the car in 1986.

[tom s]

coming along,almost done underneath.Door panels arrived from Ledgendary,seats are at the shop being rebuilt and covered.Got the consol back from Just Dashes.Building someone a nice car.

[tom s]

Well,after looking at the 40 plus year old wiring I call M&H and ordered a underdash,engine and headlight harness.In for a peney in for a pound!Tom

[hellerods]

Tom you are a fricken dinosaur----just plain old school all the way and make me feel better about myself all the time, I feel like you just pulled up a deck chair on the Titanic and ordered another round..................Keep on keeping on brother, we will turn this economy around one Pontiac at a time

[400 4spd.]

Originally Posted by Ram4king

Everybody always uses that color chart for judge stripes and its dead wrong.. Ive had these cars in all colors since i was 15 yrs old and had most colors. Liberty blue and crystal Turq and starlight black and warwick cars always had black/red and white stripes. Antique gold,mayfair and goldenrod cars always had the olive stripes. Its a shame that whoever put this chart out yrs ago gave alot of people bad info.

In 1970, a neighbor of mine bought a Starlight Black '70 Judge. A four speed with black interior, it came with the blue/orange/pink stripes. The car was a knock-out. At the time two things struck me as odd. A pink color stripe on a black car, and no trim rings. I've since learned why it had no trim rings, and I had no idea it wasn't supposed to have that stripe, but it certainly did.


TTT

[Guy Mazza]

Originally Posted by hellerods

Tom you are a fricken dinosaur----just plain old school all the way and make me feel better about myself all the time, I feel like you just pulled up a deck chair on the Titanic and ordered another round..................Keep on keeping on brother, we will turn this economy around one Pontiac at a time

+1
....well said!

[KEVGTO]

Sweet Car Tom, keep up the good work. That car's gonna be sweet when finished.

[tom s]

only real bitch I have so far is thee wheels.Had them restored and they screwed up and did them blk.Lokk great on the car with the red and blk stripes and red and blb caps and blk lug nuts.Think im going to let the next owner fix them.Tom

[Ron Landis]

Originally Posted by tom s

Well,after looking at the 40 plus year old wiring I call M&H and ordered a underdash,engine and headlight harness.In for a peney in for a pound!Tom

You CAN teach an old dawg! First thing we do to ANY serious resto. Good luck with the sale! BTW...glad you didn't do the "gold RAV" thing...that's been done to death! Ron

[tom s]

Ron,I will do whatever(to a point)to sell the car including putting the alu RA V block in the car!Tom

[tom s]

Got a couple door panels intoday.Waiting for the defoster defuser to arrive to put the dash in.Attached are a few pics.Tom

[tom s]

few more.

[tom s]

Making progress,got the carpet in yesterday,should have all the wiring buttened up this weekend.Will get the steering back in,then the seats.Need to figure what of 4 motors im going to put in it if not sold by that time.If it looks like im going to drive it for awhile one of the V engines will go in untill someone decides to own it.Tom

[Verdoro 68]

Man this car is really looking great. You've got me considering selling my '68 so I can pick it up.

[pontsd]

Tom,
Looks great , it sure has come a long way and someone is going to get a great car!