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Originally Posted by pugslyx234

Here imagine this put a ford 428 in and you can use your T5. I,m all for back yard rigging's but to a point. Brain storming is what makes this forum Great , but by the time your done this thing will vibrate you to death then you'll be askin why does it do this .

or it will work as you imagine and you will be happy, stay with it!!!

[harley3296]

today I cut the hole in the bottom of the transmission tunnel, I just needed about 7 inches,. it came out perfect then, I bolted up the headers and lifted the transmission into place allowing the shifter to poke through the hole I created in the tunnel. went to start the car up and the distributor cap was pushed against the firewall and came loose and was sitting sideways, I didn't even bother to check the distributor cap out but when I started the car it wouldn't fire. I looked around for 15 minutes trying to figure out why wouldn't start. I got a voltmeter out check the 12 volts everything was fine then it occurred to me maybe the distributor cat came loose well it was loose and the rotor crashed into the distributor cap shattering it. I had to buy another rotor button and install it. after it was installed I start a car up and it started instantly just like before, well I think some of you are right, there is a terrible vibration in the transmission, it's probably the hole is not lined up 100% correctly. well back to the drawing board, I've got to get another bell housing and have the bearing retainer machined downby a professional machine shop. this is the only thing I can think of why is causing such a vibration, I thought it might happen but I took the chance and now I've got to pay for it, looks like the car is going to be sitting in the driveway for a while

[JSPONT]

Liberty gear milled my retainer for $40.00 dollars, fits perfect in my gm bell housing. Any machine shop can do it if they have the specs.

[goa484]

Is the rotor still close to the firewall? If so, how you have the trans mounted to the crossmember may have to be adjusted. Also, double check how the fan sits in the fan shroud.

[harley3296]

As it stands right now, there is no Ford to Chevy adapter plates made., if there is there at $300 and above which is ridiculous. Is there anything out there that world convert a T5 transmission into a Chevy bolt pattern otherwise I'm looking to buy a completely new transmission which is absurd

[JSPONT]

If you had a scatter shield you can drill it and weld tabs on the back. You could also get a t 5 from an Iroc, trans am..

[pugslyx234]

I have to admire your perseverance with this project, but it reminds me of a Frankenstein project .

[HWYSTR455]

I'm curious what your total cost of this project will end up to be, post when you have that info. I suspect it will be more than having just swapped to a GM T5.

Do you have a pic of the 7" floorboard cut?

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[harley3296]

[harley3296]

T5 transmission $500
Clutch assembly $100
Bell housing number one, $100
Bell housing number 2 $100
Total $800

T56 transmission $1,800
Bell housing, scatter shield $600
Clutch assembly $100
Total $2,500

[HWYSTR455]

I see the total to date is $800, but it's not operational. And it will be at least another few 100 to get it to a marginal operating state. At least. If you grenade a trans and have to replace it, you will be very close to the cost of the T56. And with the T56 you won't need wing nuts.

Only reason I point that out is that at some point, you need to weight the factors and ask yourself if it would be better in the long run to bail on the ford T5 approach.

I think it would be easier to sell the ford T5 and buy a GM T5. That makes more sense IMO.

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[GOAT WHORE]

Hwystr455, its called throwing good money at bad.

[HWYSTR455]

It's kind of a shame that the floor and a good OE blue console got butchered. I cringed at that.

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[FirebirdHank]

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455

I think it would be easier to sell the ford T5 and buy a GM T5. That makes more sense IMO.

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I agree. A GM t5 just sold on E-bay for $450 including shipping and by the looks of it , it was a newer WC trans. The seller guaranteed that it was in good working order. However selling the ford box is now out of the question since the input shaft has been "worked".

[harley3296]

Newer GM t5 transmissions 93 and above are ford bolt pattern, there are very few out there,plus the ford I have now is all rebuilt WC V8 I can make this work, just bought a new / used bell housing and this time I'm going to machine the bearing retainer at a machine shop so I know it's going to be done correctly. There is a plus in buying t5 transmission, they are abundant and cheap, I can blow several of them up and still be ahead of the price range of t56

[HWYSTR455]

So it's the non-world class that has the Muncie/T10 trans to bell mount pattern? I thought there was one that would bolt in place of a munchie? I honestly admit, I don't know jack about the T5s.

How much is machining the bell? Is it more than getting one that would have worked the way it is?

I dunno, considering what you've spent already, and what it's going to take to finish it, to me, you only have one or two, maybe three trans explosions before you reach the cost of a T56. At 250-300ft lbs rating, you will be at the limit, reducing the duty cycle of the trans. If you run a steep rear gear, it would put less of a load on the trans, make them last longer, but it starts to negating the benefits of an OD.

I could see where this trans could be an option behind an OHC 6, or maybe an aluminum 215.

Maybe I'm just being a brick about the whole thing, but some reason it doesn't add up to me. Guess it's a time factor too, I prefer to spend as much time doing the homework before diving in, so I spend less time bleeding under the car. (and it usually costs less that way too)

Anyway, truly wish you the best in the project, and retract my negativity.

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[rtanner]

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455

So it's the non-world class that has the Muncie/T10 trans to bell mount pattern? I thought there was one that would bolt in place of a munchie? I honestly admit, I don't know jack about the T5s.

How much is machining the bell? Is it more than getting one that would have worked the way it is?

I dunno, considering what you've spent already, and what it's going to take to finish it, to me, you only have one or two, maybe three trans explosions before you reach the cost of a T56. At 250-300ft lbs rating, you will be at the limit, reducing the duty cycle of the trans. If you run a steep rear gear, it would put less of a load on the trans, make them last longer, but it starts to negating the benefits of an OD.

I could see where this trans could be an option behind an OHC 6, or maybe an aluminum 215.

Maybe I'm just being a brick about the whole thing, but some reason it doesn't add up to me. Guess it's a time factor too, I prefer to spend as much time doing the homework before diving in, so I spend less time bleeding under the car. (and it usually costs less that way too)

Anyway, truly wish you the best in the project, and retract my negativity.

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Dude the kid aint buying a t-56 give it up already sheeesh

[harley3296]

okay, just bought a bearing retainer for a Camaro /i rock ,this should fit the bell housing hole perfectly, that's what it was designed for so no need for machining and the best thing about it , $20 bucks. Now I don't have to worry about some machinist mucking it up, I should get the bell housing in about 5 to 7 days, I feel like driving to Kentucky and picking it up myself over the weekend but it's a six hour drive so I don't think I'll be doing that, not worth the gas usage and trouble.

[pugslyx234]

You know car makers spend millions on engineering to make what they make.
Even VW

[FirebirdHank]

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455

So it's the non-world class that has the Muncie/T10 trans to bell mount pattern? I thought there was one that would bolt in place of a munchie?

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Any t-5 from a 3rd gen Camaro or Firebird (82-92) will bolt up to a GM bell housing. The world class boxes are slightly stronger and were used from '88 on. I have been using one in my '69 Firebird for the last 5-6 years with no problem. Before that I had a non world class in the car for probably five years with no problems. The only reason I switched is because I found the WC box for cheap. Of course I kept the old tranny as a spare. I will admit that I don't abuse the car or the tranny, just not the way I drive (wasn't always that way).
I was wondering if he GM bearing retainer would bolt up to the Ford t5 saving the hassel of machining the bell housing.
Also wondering if the vibration is from the machining of the in-put shaft.