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Old 04-29-2013, 01:07 PM
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I have a theory that no two Verdoro Green cars are the same shade unless they were sprayed at the same time using the same mix.

There were three different shades of the color yesterday all within 200 feet of each other. I didn't get a shot of the Firebird on the other side of the field which would have made a 4th.

This is why I hate parking in proximity to other Verdoro cars.





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Old 04-29-2013, 05:32 PM
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68 & 69 are a different mix anyways aren't they?

All blondes are different too - but I still like them.

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No color match is perfect or exact. Same bases and colorants weighed in at the same amounts and you still end up with a slight variation. Then add in the fact that if you spray metallics and vary the tip size, air pressure, or the distance the gun is held from the surface and you can get a color variation. If the color is not sprayed to full hiding (it should be but this isn't always the case) a different color primer may cause a color variation. Now add in the fact that when bases and colorants are made, there is a normal manufacturing tolerance for tint strength and intensity of the colorants and tint acceptance of the bases, and a tolerance for color range when the pigments themselves are made. Might be a bit of inaccuracy too, when the colors and bases are weighed out at the jobber. So you can see how colors can easily get mismatched.

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Interesting to hear all the factors. I've always written it off to paint brand, but it sounds like there's more to it than that.

I haven't been paying close attention to other colors but it seems this green is more scattered than a color like Carousel Red or Atoll Blue.

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I've always written it off to paint brand, but it sounds like there's more to it than that.
In 2012 it is mostly a brand to brand variation .
Then factor in that 67-68 was one mix , 69 another mix , and 70 yet another .... and it adds more room for errors .

GM kept pretty tight tolerances within each plant on color tech .
Remember that doors rearward were painted at Fisher , fenders forward within the GM assembly plant confines , and endura's were already in color when they came in from manufacturer.

Part of final assembly inspection was color match consistency .

And not implying you could take a fender from a car built at Fremont in January , and put it on a car built at Baltimore in May, and have a perfect color match . That would be a roll of the dice even in August 1968.

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From what I've read, the fenders and hood were painted alongside the body at the
Fisher plant with the same batch of paint, then traveled by conveyor to the GM plant
next door to be installed at the end of the line.

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Some accounts say that certain plants did it together that way , Hurst .
And some have it accounted the other way at other plants .
Don't think they all did the same thing the same way .

Doing all the sheetmetal at same time with front metal on jigs/bucks did eventually become the standard at all plants. But don't know what years which plant did what .

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As a side note, almost daily in my travels I notice factory variation in color matches, particularly where bumper covers and fenders interface, on every brand of car on the road. I have a very discerning color eye, but quite frankly, some of the mismatches I notice on new vehicles I would not accept from the dealership.

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I have owned two original paint Verdoro cars over the years (both long gone now) and I'd say that the first 68 in the photos looks right

As for painting the front clip separately you can even see it in factory photos from the 60's. It is particularly noticeable in b&w photos.

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I agree, the first pic looks like what I remember 68
voodoo GTO's looking like when they when they were
new. To my eye, the second pic is too green(not enough gold tint)
and the third pic is too dark. However, all three are quite pretty.

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My buddy owns the first car. He did a lot of homework on the mix before they painted it. I'm jealous of how great it looks

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