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Ford vs Ferrari
Ford Vs Ferrari
I happen to have the opportunity to see this movie today and I have been going back and forth whether to go or not as Hollywood always takes creative liberties on movies and it’s not always for the best, but I held my reservations. I was a big Ford fan growing up in the 60’s and 70’s racing my 1965 Mustang to a best 12.90 @ 105 mph corked up on street tires at Irwindale and then that closed Orange County Raceway. My sister had a Shelby Mustang and cruising on Van Nuys Blvd and street racing was a weekly event for us. After watching this movie Ford vs Ferrari I thought it should have been called Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles takes on Ford…… or Don Beebe is a Putz, as the Ferrari part of the movie was short and sweet, it shows when there was supposed to be a merger between the 2 companies Ford and Ferrari an then Enzo told Ford to stuff it and then in the finale 24hr @ LeMans. Less than 25% was devoted to Ferrari but I was impressed with the friendship between Shelby and Miles and what a tragedy that Miles could not repeat his domination as a driver, test driver, car developer in 1967. If you want to see a good feel-good movie that has some nice cars in it this could be the one you see. I brought my wife and she also enjoyed it and that’s a big Win/Win!
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Great movie.
It was about that time that Ford had to change the 427 from a top oiler to a side Oiler so it could withstand sustained high RPMs.
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Good movie, but there is a far better documentary film that was done years ago. I have a friend that works in the shop that built all the cars for the movie ... all of them have late model Chevy engines with vintage engine sounds dubbed.
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Is it the documentary that's currently on Netflix. The 24 Hour War? The wife and I watched it a couple nights ago, and really enjoyed it. Very well done and informative.
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Went with my wife earlier in the week; movie was entertaining to both of us, for different reasons though.
Matt Damon as Carroll Shelby did okay imo. |
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I havent seen the movie yet, but anyone who liked it should read the book "Go Like Hell" . Its a non fiction account of the same story with a lot more detail than a movie. The best automotive book Ive ever read. Even better than Smokeys stuff. Detailing the history of GT racing was especially fascinating. How in some circles it basically became was tournament jousting was before it. It was something dangerous for the 3rd son of a Duke to partake in.
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Went this evening to see it. Pretty good IMO. Matt Damon as Carroll Shelby is more likable than the actual Carroll Shelby LOL.
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I was actually amazed the cars got dirty as the races went on!
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Ellen and I are going to it for a date night in December. It turns out the hotel we're staying at in Edinburgh, Scotland has a theater in the basement and "Ford v. Ferrari" is playing there one of the nights we'll be there. It's actually called "Le mans '66" in Great Britain, but I watched the trailer and it's the same movie. We're looking forward to it. Thanks for the advance reviews.
Jim
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I have seen some candid interviews (like the one recently posted by 'my classic car'), which made him seem like a likeable guy. Quote:
I liked how in the Jay Leno video, Jay said he thought Matt did a great job of portraying him, and gave him a token of appreciation from the Shelby family... It was cool that Matt is driving (as he apparently was in the movie) Carroll's grandson's 289 Cobra. The only problem I have with some actors is they feel compelled to push their political agenda on us "peons" because of their celebrity status; I can not at this time think of Matt Damon having done that... unlike his contemporary dicrapio.
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For sure there was a bit of license taken with facts - but it was a "historically-based fiction" -- not a documentary. Relative to Matt Damon as Shelby -- from the start of the movie my brain seemed to switch into a "just sit back and enjoy it mode", and I never tried to draw comparisons. He just seemed like Matt Damon playing a "character" -- perhaps I've seen too many Matt Damon films. But it was well done, with great characters.
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We are going right now 10:05 showing.
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Excellent movie.! I can pick apart a couple of things that weren't era correct.. but still a great movie.
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I thought it was a good movie. But I thought the 24 hour war was better. IMO Rush was a better race movie.
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im watching the 24 hr war now..im about half thru it.
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I also thought it was a great movie.
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It was kind of funny seeing Jason Borne and Batman rolling around at the park though!! the Bostian/Texas accent was a tough one for me as well!
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Jim Moshier 1971 Grand Prix 462ci SD Performance 6x heads 1962 Catalina 389 1968 Firebird 400-455 I haven't decided "If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan |
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I enjoyed it quite bit. Still a little hard for me to make the leap of Matt Damon as Shelby, but a great flick overall.
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Just saw it and enjoyed it. Especially seeing all of the period correct cars in the background.
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Yeah I can't get Matt Damon as Shelby at all. But everyone says it's a good movie so I got to see it now. I was also thinking Jon Bernthal as Lee Iacocca wasn't the best cast but he's a better actor than Damon and others say he did a good job. Of course Christian Bale gets the job done.
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