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Old 08-21-2019, 06:57 PM
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Looks like the crank counterweight right under the cam to me.

At first glance it looked like a shred of towel wrapped around the cam.

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Isn't that the crank counterweight?
This is what I'm starting to think now. Could be an illusion that it's spinning on the cam? Gotta stop watching starting to go cross eyed!

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Old 08-21-2019, 07:21 PM
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Well...it was an optical illusion. HWYSTR455 just stopped by. There was nothing there.

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Old 08-21-2019, 07:48 PM
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Well...it was an optical illusion. HWYSTR455 just stopped by. There was nothing there.
He couldn't sleep tonight without finding out! I know that feeling.

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He couldn't sleep tonight without finding out! I know that feeling.
...I feel it too, it's like we all have a stake in this.... for everyone involved's sake!

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:00 PM
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He couldn't sleep tonight without finding out! I know that feeling.
Basically! Yeah, it was an illusion, just poor lighting is all. It was the counterrweight, the angle and the poor light together caused the illusion.

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:07 PM
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72LuxuryLeMansLa,
No doubt HWYSTR455 couldn't sleep unless he knew. I do have some good news though. HWYSTR455 now owes me a steak and beer!

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No doubt HWYSTR455 couldn't sleep unless he knew. I do have some good news though. HWYSTR455 now owes me a steak and beer!
You can NEVER go wrong with Steak and Beer!

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:15 PM
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Isn't that the crank counterweight?
After you said that yes, it looks like a counter weight to me. You can see the chamfer and a hole go by. I don’t believe there’s a smoking gun there...

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Better to check anyway! That sure was deceiving, blew up the video as large as I could after the mention of possibly the crank, good catch... Every stone will be turned over once this is figured out!

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:23 PM
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I think it's time to call Bruce Fulper

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:28 PM
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Bruce! Go Away!

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:52 PM
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No doubt HWYSTR455 couldn't sleep unless he knew. I do have some good news though. HWYSTR455 now owes me a steak and beer!
Damn, sorry about that guys. If I ever make it down to to VA I'm buying!

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Old 08-21-2019, 09:05 PM
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Holeshot71,
Deal! I'll drive... hopefully I'll be driving the GTO by then!

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...I feel it too, it's like we all have a STEAK in this.... for everyone involved's sake!
CORRECTED!

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Old 08-21-2019, 10:06 PM
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CORRECTED!
Tonight it was Chicken Fricassee. I have now moved on to Bourbon....But I'm in Cajun County...

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My wife was watching a cooking show where they were grilling 2 1/2 lb 2' thick porterhouse steaks. When this thing gets right, I may buy one of those....not cheap though...maybe some good bourbon to go with it

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Now that's funny!!!

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Old 08-22-2019, 07:12 AM
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I wonder how the new distributor bushing is now? any slop? Sure would be interesting to see the oil pump drive shaft. I wonder if there is true distributor gear engagement? like maybe part of the cam gear not cut deep enough, putting the dist gear in a bind at a certain part of the rotation. The KNOCK could be the oil pump drive shaft hitting the side of the hole in the block. The cam gear (distributor) was the only thing NOT replaced.....right?

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Old 08-22-2019, 07:45 AM
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FWIW, thinking about it last night, if the crank counter weight was interfering with the oil pump driveshaft, it would be timed with the timing chain and gears. The shaft would only hit at a specific time causing only a portion of the shaft to be polished, which it is only polished on one spot. It can't hit the counterweight for a full revolution as the counter weight is roughly flat on half 50% of the circle.

Now the driveshaft is turning at half the speed of the crank due to the 2 to 1 ratio of the timing chain, making the spot rubbing maybe 25% of the circumference of the driveshaft.

Going from memory, I seem to recall that could be what I saw when the shaft was photographed. I know it may be a long shot, but the known noise is somewhere in the drive of the distributor and oil pump area, and hitting the counterweight would make a noise that was intermittent each revolution of the crank. It would also explain the driveshaft only being polished in one spot. If the long shot I dreamed up is correct the interference would be very slight. I don't know if that crank residing in the engine presently is an aftermarket crank, (since its a 467 based on a 400 block it almost has to be) but we all know the chi coms have been known to manufacture parts without the utmost in quality control.

This may be something, or it may be nothing, I just want this to be put to bed. The oil pump shaft only being polished in a small area still sticks in my mind, and I think it is interfering with some other internal engine part that isn't stationary.

There you go, a possible cause, I could be totally wrong, but there is a small chance I could be right. If the oil pump shaft was put back together 180 degrees from where it was initially in this last disassembly, it should now have 2 polished spots on it, if it happened to be put back in the original position it would still only have one spot.

It would also explain why when replacing the oil pump and shaft in the first go around, the noise persisted. One other thing is an oil lite bushing is pretty benign due to it softer nature and for only being circulated for a minimal amount of time in the engine it seemed to do quite a bit of damage to wear surfaces, (bearings rings cylinder walls) usually reserved to steel or iron circulating through an engine, not oil lite bearing material.

Anyway something to check out, since the obvious things have mostly been checked out by this time.

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