I'm pretty sure that says GTO on the rear! - PY Online Forums

HUMBLER · #1 07-21-2006, 07:29 PM

Unfortunately or fortunatley, depending how you look at it, it's just a photochop!

HUMBLER · #2 07-23-2006, 02:47 PM

GOAT WAGON 428 · #3 07-29-2006, 04:12 PM

HMMMMMMM!?!?!?!?!?!

matt1970pon · #4 08-06-2006, 11:53 AM

was told that they are getting rid of the new gto anyway.pontiac is bringing back the trans am to replace it.Its ALOT better looking that the new cockroach shape things now adays.Do a search in google for new trans am.Looks cool.And best of all its MADE by pontiac.

JohnS66GTO · #5 08-09-2006, 12:06 AM

I've seen the same picture on GMInsidenews, and if you read the thread for a few pages, they admit the picture is their own photoshop job, just put out as a teaser. Not a picture from GM at all. Some posters on their forum were hopping mad when they found out they were duped.

Sorry, I'd like to know when a new GTO is coming out, too. Still trying to figure out how to justify a 2006 before they're gone. I really need another year minimum before I can add another car payment, but that leaves me in the "lull" waiting for the next one. I believe Lutz has already said publicly that another GTO will probably happen if the Camaro is a go, and he also has repeatedly said there will be no new Firebird. Of course, denial up front has never stopped those guys in the past...

John

JohnS66GTO · #6 08-09-2006, 12:28 AM

Oh, and matt...

Unfortunately, nothing is really made by Pontiac anymore. I worked at Pontiac when the division's engineering, marketing, purchasing, etc. departments were "assimilated" into the rest of corporate GM around 1984. I grew up in a family of Pontiac employees, so believe me when I say that it just doesn't exist at all anymore. There is absolutely nothing but badging and "brand management" now within GM. In fact, there are only a few people in the whole corporation now with the name "Pontiac" on their business cards, and they're essentially only figure heads.

I assumed you meant that a new car may be made in America instead of Australia, but I just wanted to point that out because some people on this board keep hoping to someday see a "real Pontiac engine" in a new car again. Impossible. Tooling was scrapped, and there is no Pontiac engineering department anymore.

However, even knowing that, I'd still rather be seen in a car with a Pontiac nameplate on it than a Chebby

John

matt1970pon · #7 08-09-2006, 11:16 AM

I know that the engine and drivetrain are all corporate now but,I just wish that GM used Pontiac to think something up.Lets face it Fords mustang is perfect and what does GM have??????And let me ad in the Mustangs price.

Jeff R · #8 08-10-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by matt1970pon

was told that they are getting rid of the new gto anyway.pontiac is bringing back the trans am to replace it.Its ALOT better looking that the new cockroach shape things now adays.Do a search in google for new trans am.Looks cool.And best of all its MADE by pontiac.

The '04-'06 GTO was a planned all along as three-year run, and the Firebird/Trans Am is dead and not coming back. The next GTO will supposedly be built on the same platform as the new Camaro.

HUMBLER · #9 08-10-2006, 05:45 PM

How is a slow Mustang perfect? Bwahahaha...

The Champ · #10 08-12-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by matt1970pon

I know that the engine and drivetrain are all corporate now but,I just wish that GM used Pontiac to think something up.Lets face it Fords mustang is perfect and what does GM have??????And let me ad in the Mustangs price.

The Mustang is so far from perfect that it is left far behind by the GTO.

When comparably equipped (well if you consider being 100 HP less powerful comparably equipped - not to mention several other deficiencies) the Mustang really isn't that much different in price than the GTO as far as sticker price goes. Street price, the GTO may even be less.

Just admit that you happen to like the looks of the Mustang and don't care about performance. If that's the case, fine.

But don't try and tell us that the Mustang is "perfect" or that it is less expensive on an apples to apples comparison.

JohnS66GTO · #11 08-13-2006, 06:24 PM

I agree with The Champ. I actually like the looks of the mustang from the outside, but it's far from perfect.

A few weeks ago, we had Ford vehicles on display where I work (one of the major automotive component suppliers). I looked the mustang over pretty closely, and found a lot of flaws that just said "cheezy" to me, like:

- The entire interior is covered with hard, shiny plastic. I mean really hard. Like my dad's '76 chevette had. It would have looked OK on a car that's under $20K, but not on a car over $35K. Looked and felt really cheap.

- This particular example was a convertible. With the top down, there was a huge piece of exposed hard foam (with a beaded surface like a styrofoam cooler) in the convertible top area that was visible when standing anywhere along the side of the car. They couldn't cover this up? Maybe there's a boot that was missing, but it really looked bad.

- I looked under the hood, and the torsional damper was the first thing that caught my eye. Seems to me, that's the last thing that should catch my eye. To lower cost, it looks like Ford left it unpainted, machined iron, and it was glowing orange with rust. This car had less than 1000 summer miles on it. The valve covers look like die cast magnesium, which is OK, except they look unpainted, and they already had white corrosion forming all over them which made them look splotchy. I pointed these items out to a few of my co-workers, and they all said pretty much the same thing: 'That really sucks on a car over $35K'.

As a supplier to all of the auto companies, I get to see a lot of different cars close up, sometimes torn apart or on a hoist. When I looked over the mustang, all I could think of to describe it was "cost reduced" (which isn't a compliment in the auto industry).

John

Jeff R · #12 08-14-2006, 12:18 AM

Somehow this has turned into a good old-fashioned GTO vs. Mustang thread. My vote...GTO > * > Mustang.

HUMBLER · #13 08-25-2006, 08:34 AM

Will we see this prior to the next gen GTO?

matt1970pon · #14 08-26-2006, 08:52 AM

true,but the mustang looks like a mustang.Still preforms like a mustang and the GTO can still outrun it.Same as has always been.Saw something yesterday though that made me happy.2008 gto made by PONTIAC here,400 in it,and its a wide track.now thats sweet.

BR57 · #15 08-29-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff R

. The next GTO will supposedly be built on the same platform as the new Camaro.

Then it will be built in Oshawa, Ontario - Canada, along side the Camaro.

BR57 · #16 08-29-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HUMBLER

Will we see this prior to the next gen GTO?

Looks just like a G6 sedan.

HUMBLER · #17 08-29-2006, 11:05 PM

http://media.drive.com.au/?source=go...te=340&flash=1

Judge Man · #18 09-03-2006, 06:30 PM

If I was to pick from a new TA and a GTO I would go with the GTO all the way

dancolkate · #19 09-03-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff R

Somehow this has turned into a good old-fashioned GTO vs. Mustang thread. My vote...GTO > * > Mustang.

I don't consider the GTO and the Mustang competition at all.

GTO:
Imported.
Not a well accepted body style.
Very limited options/trim levels.
Limited annual production over a short number of years.

Mustang:
Built in US.
Successful retro styling.
Everything from a 6 banger to a GT500.
Putting tons of them out to rental *including an H350.
Aftermarket parts galore already available

If GM were smart, the NEW GTO would give the Mustang a run. We'll see.

GOAT WAGON 428 · #20 09-03-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Judge Man

If I was to pick from a new TA and a GTO I would go with the GTO all the way

T/A looks WAY cooler. Ram Air, WS6, N.O.S, Supercharger, Traction bars: 10.0s

! And I'm a GTO Guy!