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After about 22 years of ownership, I'm finally able to begin restoring my first car, a 1966 GTO. I thought I'd create a thread here to document the process and ask questions along the way. And perhaps you all will make some
![]() The backstory is that this is my first car, which I got in 1997 when I was in high school. We paid around $2500 for it, and although we knew it was rough around the edges, it is a true 242 GTO with PHS docs. Original build specs are as such: - Assembled at the Pontiac, MI plant - Delivered to an unknown dealer in Jacksonville, FL - Post/coupe body - Cameo Ivory exterior - Black interior - 389ci 4Bbl 335hp - Auto trans, floor shift w/console - 3.23:1 Safe-T-Track differential - Deluxe wheel covers - Air conditioning - Soft-Ray tinted glass Although it was sold new in Florida, it somehow made it back up to Michigan, which is where I grew up and bought it. By the time I got my hands on it, it had been resprayed (very poorly) in red, had a warmed over 400ci engine with RAIII heads and TH400 trans thrown in it, and an Olds 12-bolt posi rear with 4:30 gears. It was (is) a tired old car, but it was fun to bomb around in when I was sixteen. Once I graduated high school in 1999, I was in college and too broke to do anything with it, so I put it in storage and moved all over the country, eventually landing in Seattle. After it sat in storage for nearly 20 years, I finally had it shipped from Michigan to Seattle in December, 2018 so I can begin restoring it. This is where the fun begins. Plans are to do a complete bare metal frame-off nut & bolt restoration. It's going to stay red with a black interior and dog-dish hub caps, but I'm going to build a new engine (400/461 stroker) and upgrade the brakes and suspension. Once it's finished, it's going to get driven hard. On to the photos... How it looked in high school. Same as today, other than the wheels. Seeing the light of day for the first time in nearly 20 years. Getting ready to be shipped across the country to be with me, finally. Its new home with me in Seattle. This is where I will be doing all the work myself, except for metal and paint work. Data plate Other than the door panels, the interior is largely original. I foolishly cut the dash in the '90s for a modern stereo... Oh well, it can be fixed. A crusty but low mileage (under 10k miles) 1975 400 500557 engine. This block replaced the warmed over 1970 400 that I got the car with (cracked a piston). I was a teen and needed a new block ASAP. I will probably clean this engine up and use temporarily as a cruiser, but I also have a nice untouched '68 400 block that I'm going to do a proper 461 stroker build with at some point. Carpet removed. There are a few thin spots, and the front passenger footwell is totally shot, but it's much better than I thought it would be. Door sills are rock solid. Inner wheel housings look good, too. The worst of the rust in the floor pan. It doesn't creep up the front kick panel very high, so should be easy to fix. Found a for sale sign inside the rear quarter panel when removing the interior. Someone sold it for $550 at some point. It says 'INQUIRE AT STATION', so I'm guessing someone took it to a service station when the original 389 wasn't running right and it turned out to be a blown engine so they just dumped the car and left it for the station to deal with. That's one theory, anyway. Inside of left rear wheel arch with trim removed. Very solid. In fact, the wheel openings at all four corners are in really good shape, except the very bottom few inches behind the rear wheels. Leading corner of right rear wheel opening. Solid. Left rear lower quarter behind rear wheel. This is about the worst of it. The rot only extends a few inches up on both sides of the car, so should be an easy patch job. I was very happy to see that the inner dash metal wasn't rusted out at the base of the windshield. There is some rust visible outside the car at the base of the windshield, so I'm sure some work will be needed there, but at least it appears to not have crept inside the car. The trunk pan, rear deck (base of rear glass), and parcel tray are all shot. The trunk lid itself has rust along the rear edge, and the door shells are also significantly rusted out. Fortunately, I was able to find a pair of very solid original doors (no easy feat with a post car) and a trunk lid, so I don't have to worry about fixing the existing doors or trunk lid. Anyhow, that's all for now. I will be updating this thread periodically as I make progress, and I'm sure I'll have lots of questions for you folks along the way. Thanks for reading!
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![]() 1966 Pontiac GTO (restoration thread) 1998 BMW 328is (track rat) 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited (daily) View my photos: Caught in the Wild Last edited by ZeGermanHam; 02-18-2019 at 03:36 PM. |
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Looks like it has great bones to start with. Good luck on your endeavor! Looking forward to your future posts.
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While I'm sure more issues will be revealed when it comes back from media blasting, my biggest fear of it being a total basket case is diminishing, fortunately. One of the previous owners had it heavily undercoated, including drilling holes and spraying inside the body panels. While this created a huge mess that I now have to painstakingly clean up, it may have been what saved it from the death sentence that cars in Michigan are typically faced with.
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![]() 1966 Pontiac GTO (restoration thread) 1998 BMW 328is (track rat) 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited (daily) View my photos: Caught in the Wild Last edited by ZeGermanHam; 02-18-2019 at 08:48 PM. |
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What's with that warehouse full of cars?
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Prayers sent. OH, and subscribed!
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I am a member of a collector car club called The Shop, which is where I store and work on my GTO and BMW track car. Living in a big city, many houses (mine included) don't have garages or driveways, so I have to keep my non-daily driver cars elsewhere. It's a really fun place to spend time. More info here:
https://theshopclubs.com/ Ha, I'll need 'em!
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Cool project...love the post cars...I have a 67...will be following along as you "post" your progress
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Good luck with your build. I did the same thing with my 67 GTO vert, even to the dollars that I spent. All that was posted here about 5-7 yrs ago. I don't know if that thread is still available or not but there was a lot of good help and advice posted in it. Your car is in much better shape than what I started with. It took me several years to do mine but I never gave up, thanks to all the support from the fine folks here. I will be following your thread. Good luck.
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Thanks! I stumbled upon my post car by accident, but I've grown to appreciate them over the years for being a little different.
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Good Luck on this project! We have something in common, my first car was also a 66 GTO, bought used just out of high school in 1968. What we do not have in common is a place to work on them like that shop, damn I'm jealous about that.
Mike Pearson
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Fort Worth/Dallas TX area 1966 GTO Fontaine Blue 389 CID Carter AFB Muncie 4 speed (orginally an automatic car) |
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Your post history should be retained, so I'll take a peek at it to get a sense of what you went through. I'm sure lots of it will apply to me. Quote:
Also, I can't imagine what it would have been like to buy a 2 year old '66 GTO just out of high school. You must have been over the moon at the time.
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![]() 1966 Pontiac GTO (restoration thread) 1998 BMW 328is (track rat) 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Limited (daily) View my photos: Caught in the Wild Last edited by ZeGermanHam; 02-19-2019 at 11:24 AM. |
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It was a short lived romance. Driving into work in downtown Fort Worth that next spring I was TBoned by a new 1969 Gran Prix! Car was totaled by insurance, but my Dad had some connection with a local Cadillac dealer who's body shop straightened the frame, but it was never right after the wreck, had to sell it for what I could get.
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Fort Worth/Dallas TX area 1966 GTO Fontaine Blue 389 CID Carter AFB Muncie 4 speed (orginally an automatic car) |
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Looking forward to your progress!
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I think this will take you my thread. It is long and several years old but it may help some.
https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...starting+frame
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Nice Project, Best of Luck.
Checked out your storage link, Not bad. It nice to have a place to work and with 200+ a month rent hopefully it keeps you motivated ![]() When I was just out of HS my folks didn't have a garage so I rented shop space, back then I was paying $100 a month per car, so X3 got out of real quick but it sure kept me pushing on to get them finished. Best of luck! Cheers.
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Man, I love that setup. There’s nothing like that around here. I’m paying 200/mo just to keep my car in an open, frozen lot. Actually it was difficult just to find that. Real estate is through the roof in Toronto and every other place I stored my car has been developed.
Also, the liability thing is probably keeping the idea of a shop like that here an impossibility. |
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Spent another afternoon with the GTO today. I test fit my solid donor trunk lid which fit well and is in great shape.
Also, this was fun... ![]() I took another gander at the heater box under the dash. My A/C heater box is not in good shape. I'm fairly certain nobody makes reproductions for A/C cars, correct? Also, do I have any options for fixing the rusted inner cowl/kick-panel where the heater box bolts to the body? I see that Ames sells reproduction metal in this location for non-A/C cars only. Does this leave me with no other option but to repair the heavily rusted metal I have? I also removed my windshield trim. No surprises there, other than the rust I already knew about. I think I'll be able to get away with replacing just the lower windshield strip panel.
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No pictures on your last post!
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