Help with a dead-beat in New Hampshire

[getmygoat]

Hi all,

Well, I bought a 70 GTO, 4-speed, A/C (sight unseen - mistake) from this loser in New Hampshire. Claimed the car was "all numbers matching".. Turns out, the engine is a restamp, tranny is for a '68 something, and its got a Chevy 10 bolt rear.

He tells me all the electrics work... when the car arrives.... NO wipers, radio, horn, fan, A/C clutch engagement, generator light, brake light, reverse lights.

So, I start driving the car.. and I ask him "is this car running a thermostat.. it runs cold"... he replies "Yup definitely"... I take the upper hose off. .and yeah, you guessed it... no thermostat.

Anyway, partly my fault for buying a car sight unseen and trusting this loser.

Anyway, the other sore point is when the car arrived, all the lower A/C duct work is missing.. he says "oh yeah, I have it, I'll send it to you".. That was a month ago.. and nothing. (The car sat in his garage for 2 months after I bought it, you'd think he'd have time to remember the duct work and drop it in the car - but no).

If anyone lives near Swanzey New Hampshire, and wants to help me extract at least my A/C ducts from this dead-beat.. it sure would be a help.

Thanks,
Fred

p.s.- I'm still trying to determine if he's stupid, deceptive, or possibly a combination of both.

Oh yeah, and he's trying to sell a white judge... which I now here is a big POS, so watch out.

[Blackcat]

How bout a name?
You should have had it inspected by someone from the board.
As for your duct work. your most likely SOL.
He has your money and that the end in his mind.

[racerboy]

Tell him that you are not afraid of flying up to NH and suing him civilly and reporting this matter of fraud to the NH Attorney General's Office


Here's their address:
33 Capitol Street,
Concord, NH 03301
Tel. (603) 271-3658
Fax (603) 271-2110
http://www.state.nh.us/nhdoj/

To file a complaint:
http://www.courts.state.nh.us/district/claims.htm

Here's some info from their Dept. of Justice:
WHERE TO GO IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM

The laws applying to used car sales can be difficult to apply and the examples show the difficulties in interpreting circumstances. Contact the NH Consumer Protection & Antitrust Bureau if you have a problem with a used car purchase.

NH Consumer Protection & Antitrust Bureau (http://doj.nh.gov/consumer)
33 Capitol St., Concord, NH 03301-6397
271-3641 If you believe the Buyer's Guide rule has been violated, contact the FTC.

Federal Trade Commission (http://www.ftc.gov/)
600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW, Washington, D.C. 20580
1-877-FTC-HELP or 1-877-382-4357 (toll-free)
TDD: 1-202-326-2502 The Better Business Bureau may also assist in mediating or arbitrating a dispute.

Better Business Bureau (http://www.bbb.org/)
410 South Main St., Concord, NH 03301-3459
1-800-955-5100, or 224-1991, 228-3789 or 228-3844

[Todd Kozak]

what was his email address? phone? name?

[getmygoat]

His name is Robert (Bob) Smith, Swanzey New Hampshire. Phone # 603-355-8867

[getmygoat]

ok, I know I am venting now... but I just realized he even kept the spare tire and jack!! See pics below .. the first is a pic he sent of the trunk prior to purchase, the second is a pic I just took this morning.

unbelieveable!

[dancolkate]

getmygoat,
I'm not too far from this guy. Maybe I can setup an "appointment".
PM me.

I think it would be great to have a new topic called "local inpections for fellow PY'ers". This new topic could be useful for non-Pontiac purchase assistance too (pickups, boats, etc...) as many of us are buying out of state.

Ccass? Moderators?

[Pontiacmuscle]

I Agree Dan....Ive been meeting alot of really great Pontiac People for a Long time and
anything that helps us network and get things done is a big plus for the hobby...IMHO...
Now who does this soapbox belong to?

[Matt Danger]

I think it would be great to have a new topic called "local inpections for fellow PY'ers". This new topic could be useful for non-Pontiac purchase assistance too (pickups, boats, etc...) as many of us are buying out of state.
Ditto.

I'm not looking to buy, but I can certainly check some cars out for anyone.

[Wick]

There are some guys down here in Houston and the surrounding areas that would help out.

[formula400]

matt danger,
where are you in buffalo?i'm located in elma
always looking for guys to cruise with,there are a couple of pontiac guys by me and we hang out all the time

[firebirdcrazy1959]

i've been in such a bad mood for the last couple weeks that i feel like taking a road trip and have some fun with this guy. :burnout: :drive: :argue: :burnout: :drive: :jaw:

[Newbomb Turk]

Been there, done that, got the t shirt. Good luck to you buddy. It's much harder to take legal action against a private seller than a dealer. Read this, i know EXACTLY how you feel. :sorry: :(

http://216.178.81.108/forums/showthread.php?t=428634

[firebirdcrazy1959]

yea.your right.i just wanted another t-shirt :sorry:

[Pontiacmuscle]

Larry There are other PY'rs that like T-Shirts ya know! :)

[firebirdcrazy1959]

Sorry,t-shirts are my downfall.i must have 50 concert shirts.all in the last 4 yrs. :sorry:

[fastgto]

Will help out in Vancouver British Columbia. 2 hrs north of Seattle. Western Canada.

[firebirdcrazy1959]

could use your help in BC but not with cars:heh:

[Supergas990]

You have PM.

Blair

[fastgto]

Firebirdcrazy, I think I know what your talking about. Don`t believe all you hear on the news. Even though Tommy Chong likes hanging out around here.
Hee Hee Hee....

[firebirdcrazy1959]

:Peace: :whoo: Daves not here

[getmygoat]

Guys,

Appreciate the support on this.

The seller is being much more responsive now... He has fed-ex'ed me a bunch of stuff at this point, including the spare rim, jack, a/c parts.. original intake.

It turns out, he had the original tranny (or what sounds like the original tranny, based on the stampings) at his brother's house. He says he is also sending that. The case has been welded, but maybe its usable.

So, I'll have a 70 GTO 4-speed a,c with a matching #'s welded trans. :-)
OOoooooooh

Apparently someone from the boards gave him a nasty call.. I think at this point we can "call off the dogs"

Thanks, Fred

[nonnova]

In the immortal words of Col. John "Hannibal" Smith, "I love it when a plan comes together!"

[firebirdcrazy1959]

:cool2: Nice that another Eraper gets with the program.Would be nice if all Erape storys turned out good.