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titen14
09-13-2007, 06:14 PM
I think most of you know who bighooch is AKA (Pat)...Hes from indiana has all the TA's, Firebirds...Im not gonna get into details...but i will say this....he royally screwed me over on a bunch of parts and now the guy wont return my phone calls....Hes been avoiding me all week....so if anyone else is going to be dealing with him...i would advise you different

Brian Baker
09-13-2007, 06:19 PM
1.) Never heard of him.

2.) You posted this in the wrong section (lobby).

firebirdcrazy1959
09-13-2007, 06:35 PM
???????????

Uprmich
09-13-2007, 06:47 PM
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508400


Yep. He's got $1500 of mine and won't answer:phone:. Keeps emailing me his phone number and does not pick up. He has a new email though [email protected]

Figured I am pretty screwed at this point. Too far to chase and take to court or other nasty things:bolt:

74SDformula
09-13-2007, 08:32 PM
I think I saw him post over at transamcountry during the last few days. You might try looking there for some help. He must be getting his bad habits from Ed Waller.

68bird400HO
09-13-2007, 09:43 PM
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508400


Yep. He's got $1500 of mine and won't answer:phone:. Keeps emailing me his phone number and does not pick up. He has a new email though [email protected]

Figured I am pretty screwed at this point. Too far to chase and take to court or other nasty things:bolt:

If you sent him payment for parts that he will not send, then I believe he is committing mail fraud which is a federal offense. You don't have to sue, the feds will take care of him. If I were him, I would be more worried about that.

FASTGOAT66
09-13-2007, 10:11 PM
Give him a chance he will do the right thing.

johnsma22
09-13-2007, 10:14 PM
Hey mods, take a look a this Thread (http://www.transamcountry.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8364&highlight=) and delete this thread before the guys' reputation is damaged any further. Looks like the thread starter made contact and all is rectified, but he forgot to come here and say so.

b-man
09-13-2007, 11:39 PM
Hey mods, take a look a this Thread (http://www.transamcountry.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8364&highlight=) and delete this thread before the guys' reputation is damaged any further. Looks like the thread starter made contact and all is rectified, but he forgot to come here and say so.I will not delete this thread.

I will leave this thread open, in order to let the thread starter only post an apology if this thread was posted in error.

johnsma22
09-13-2007, 11:47 PM
I agree Bart because TAC deleted the apology thread that I linked to as well as original thread titen14 posted to trash the guy. Apparently Pat goes away for several days at a time and was unable to respond.

bigghooch
09-14-2007, 04:46 PM
Here is the story, and I am sure AL ( the guy who started this will post his agreement)
Al purchase a Truckload of items from me
Rust free fenders, and complete 71 nose, some interior panels, and a set of 1971 Seat CORES, some brand new PUI seat covers and a new ACS carpet and some other small items
Everything was fine untill he romoved the tracks from the seats
The frames were rotted and the bolts stripped out
Al could not get a hold of me for THREE days He freaked out and started to panic
When I called him back I gladly told him I would replace the seats with another set I have and I am even sending some more parts he needs....All is good with AL


As for Uprmich.. Why not tell the whole story???????
How you sent a deposit in JUNE and youwere going to pick up the car BY the END OF THE MONTH...
Then nothing from you YOU would not answer MY phone calls or MY emails Other members here and at TAC wanted that car but I could not sell it because You had made a deposit. I held the car untill the last day I had to move them constantly leaving you messages and even sending PMs through this board with no Response untill DECEMBER!!!
I put the car in storage and told you to contact me and I would tell you how to get it
You have never called me, I posted my cell in this forum so you and ANYONE Else who thought they should call me about it would have my number. You never called
You have not sent me n email since JAN of 2007
You know you did not follow through, You know you were wrong that is why you ignore me now except when I post here. Everytiime I post something for sale here or my name comes up YOU call me a thief and tell YOUR incorrect side of the story. The Car is still in Atlanta JUST AS YOU REQUESTED. AS soon as the storage eats up your deposit I will go get the car and bring it up here.
Once again I lost the sale of that car to other members because YOU wanted it then YOU could not pay for it when promised. The car HAD to move I lost my storage and you would not answer me.
Here is a link to the last time you Lied to everyone here about me
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508645

It really is time for you to call me and settle this or shut your mouth

GTO Noob
09-14-2007, 05:46 PM
:popcorn:

74SDformula
09-14-2007, 08:08 PM
Well it looks like I might owe bigghooch an apology for opening my mouth also. Sorry for the inference to Ed Waller. Maybe I am just a little jealous that I missed out on that hoard of firebirds. My apoligies bigghooch.

bigghooch
09-14-2007, 08:18 PM
I understand, I have taken a lot of heat because people think we are close or working together.
I bought his cars and kept the ones I wanted. Now I just play with them like big matchbox cars:D

Uprmich
09-15-2007, 03:05 AM
oK Pat, I'll admit to not emailing you since early in the year. I simply had other things that needed my attention and the energy wasn't there to continue to get an email/pm with your phone number which you don't answer. But no way you can spill that garbage and tell me you have been upfront. Here is my whole story from my email box sans the first meeting. For those that are interested I'll post it if necessary.I'll apologize for the size of the email string I've sent Pat upfront.....

Date:
Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:05 AM
From:
[email protected]
To:
[email protected] file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('[email protected]',%2 0'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1180');)
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Pat, How about this..if you believe that I haven't tried to communicate with you and keep abreast of things then you are entitled to your opinion. But the fact is you have $1500 as a deposit on a car and I don't know where its at nor can I find out from you. If the car has been moved to your home and is no longer in Atlanta then it becomes a bit of a problem for me. As a solution, I'll pay the $200-$300 you said the guy charged you to haul it and you refund me the difference and we will part ways. Figure this is an easy and equitable way out of this. Let me know Ray ---- [email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=blue1970TA%40comcast.net) wrote: > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: <[email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=rryoti%40adelphia.net)> > > > Pat, > > Haven't had much luck in trying by phone and found your new email on TAC. How > > can we get this done? Can you let me know when and if you are going to return to > > Atlanta and will make a point to be there... I assume the car is still there or > > no??? This $2000 is burning a hole in my pocket. > > Ray
Date:
Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:09 AM
From:
[email protected]
To:
[email protected] file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('[email protected]',%2 0'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1176');)
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Pat, got this back no comment. Intentional?? ---- [email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=blue1970TA%40comcast.net) wrote: > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: <[email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=rryoti%40adelphia.net)> > > > Pat, > > Haven't had much luck in trying by phone and found your new email on TAC. How > > can we get this done? Can you let me know when and if you are going to return to > > Atlanta and will make a point to be there... I assume the car is still there or > > no??? This $2000 is burning a hole in my pocket. > > Ray
Date:
Friday, January 19, 2007 9:27 AM
From:
[email protected]
To:
[email protected] file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('[email protected]',%2 0'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1174');)
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Atlanta
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Pat, Haven't had much luck in trying by phone and found your new email on TAC. How can we get this done? Can you let me know when and if you are going to return to Atlanta and will make a point to be there... I assume the car is still there or no??? This $2000 is burning a hole in my pocket. Ray

Date:
Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:23 PM
From:
[email protected]
To:
bigghooch <[email protected]> file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('bigghooch%20%3Cbigghooch@c omcast.net%3E',%20'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1132');)
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Called again. Same result. Let me know how to contact you so we can get this deal done Ray
Date:
Friday, December 15, 2006 7:57 PM
From:
[email protected]
To:
bigghooch <[email protected]> file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('bigghooch%20%3Cbigghooch@c omcast.net%3E',%20'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1131');)
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Phone
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Pat, have tried to call a few times. Mailbox is full. Ray I'll try again tomorrow
Date:
Monday, December 11, 2006 8:21 AM
From:
[email protected]
To:
bigghooch <[email protected]> file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('bigghooch%20%3Cbigghooch@c omcast.net%3E',%20'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1127');)
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79 TA
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Pat, since you haven't answered I am not quite sure whether or not you are getting the emails I have been sending so I will call this week to find out if you are going to be in Atlanta at anytime to finish off this deal. If the deal is not to your liking at this point please let me know and we can work ourselves backward and part ways. Ray

Date:
Thursday, December 7, 2006 9:12 AM
From:
[email protected]
To:
bigghooch <[email protected]> file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('bigghooch%20%3Cbigghooch@c omcast.net%3E',%20'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1125');)
Subject:
Still around?
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Pat, still around??? Did you get my email?? Just checking in.... Ray

Date:
Friday, December 1, 2006 2:24 PM
From:
[email protected]
To:
bigghooch <[email protected]> file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('bigghooch%20%3Cbigghooch@c omcast.net%3E',%20'/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1120');)
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79 TA
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Pat, wanted to get in contact with you now that you and the Atlanta guy are done squaring off and you are well again. Is there a time you are going to be in Atlanta? If not, who is your contact there as obviously for both of us we need to close this deal. Let me know when it is convenient. Thanks Ray Ryoti
Date:
Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:20 PM
From:
[email protected]
To:
[email protected] file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Ray/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (javascript:addContact('[email protected]',%20 '/webedge/do/mail/message/addMultipleContacts?recipient=to&l=en-US&v=rr','SentMailDELIM1053');)
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Re: T/A's
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Pat, called and left message. I'll try again tomorrow. My cell 704.663.#$%$ but I get ****ty reception at home. Home number is 704.799.#### Ray ---- [email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=bigghooch%40comcast.net) wrote: > Ray\ > > Please send me your number so we can get together onthis > Thank you > pat > 574-320-0084 > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Ray Ryoti" <[email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=RRyoti%40adelphia.net)> > > Pat, need to get in touch with you this weekend or soon to culminate this deal. I should be off this weekend after 3 pm tomorrow. Let me know a time I am not infringing on you > Thanks > Ray > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=bigghooch%40comcast.net) > To: [email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=rryoti%40adelphia.net) > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: T/A's > > > I am going ot Atlanta this week > My cell will be on me > 574-320-0084 > Thank you > pat > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: <[email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=rryoti%40adelphia.net)> > > > Pat, had some issues at work and a key employee quit so I'll call tomorrow. > > Sorry for the delay > > Ray > > > > > > > > ---- [email protected] (https://webmail.roadrunner.com/webedge/do/mail/message/mailto?to=bigghooch%40comcast.net) wrote: > > > Call me, we will work out a deal on the four speed TA > > > We are close and i do have some extra parts for it > > > The TA needs a home too! > > > Thankyou > > > pat > > > 574-320-0084

Uprmich
09-15-2007, 03:12 AM
That didn't quite work as it looked but the dates are clear. And I had NO CLUE that the car was still in Atlanta as you told me you were moving them 3-4 a month. Put up some email/communication from your end and I'll stand corrected. Oh, and how much is this storage you mentioned?

bigghooch
09-17-2007, 10:09 AM
OK,
Lets say what you just posted is 100% accurate.....:-ohwell:



The first email you show here after the deal was made is Sept 28th,, I did not receive this one if yousent it,,
That is 4 months after you sent the deposit, 3 Months AFTER you promised to pick up the car.

Post all the stuff you want, BUT you put down a deposit in JUNE and were suposed to pick up the car by the END of the month...
What happened.

The next email is in DEC
YOU have not called me or left ONE voice Mail

You did not follow through, You were not completely honest.
I do not know what the issue was, but YOU did not call me back OR answer my emails the WHOLE summer.
PY is not a JURY, so I will not be posting all my emails here trying to get the members " on my side" You know what happened and by ANYONE looking at the dates here they know what happened too
And about you haveing NO CLUE the car was in ATL....
Get real, In the last post that you started this BS in I told you the SAME thing and you still have not called me I posted the car was in storage in ATL in the link above you can read it, I sent you many emails stating the car was still in ATL just like you wanted.
I did everything I promised and you jacked me around until you were ready.
I have also sent you PMs through this board and TAC which you ignored.
And so everyone can see how you are You posted this message acting all perfect and you still have not called me,
The car has been in storage for just over a year, Inside storage in ATL.

titen14
09-17-2007, 12:02 PM
I dont know what happened but i couldnt get logged on after i made the post....I just want to send an apology to Pat as he did call me the same day i posted this and we did work everything out. i wasnt aware he traveled alot so i jumped the gun. He even gave me more parts i needed at no additional cost which says alot about his character. So with this said my apologies to Pat and this subject is over

b-man
09-17-2007, 10:58 PM
This one is locked.

If there are more comments from the two parties directly involved here that need to be added, send me a PM and I'll open the thread.