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lugnutt 12-30-2011 07:15 PM

Sheet metal style water cross over
 
Don't know if this is a production piece or not. Do you know anyone that sells a fabricated water crossover? Just really hate the look when you cut the front of a intake off.
Thanks

p4msi1 01-02-2012 07:20 AM

Lugnut, just build it yourself, its easy.

60man 01-02-2012 09:21 AM

Happy New Year Lug...
Bigchief468 is running a KRE sheet metal intake...and has a sheet metal crossover on his old motor...
Maybe you coluld check with Jeff/KRE. There is a picture of it in Performance For Sale section under NSS...

Got any 6.7 rods ??....:-)

Ron H 01-02-2012 03:37 PM

I added an old warrior crossover someone divorced long ago. KRE sells new cast pieces.

EPC_Motorsports 01-02-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugnutt (Post 4507208)
Don't know if this is a production piece or not. Do you know anyone that sells a fabricated water crossover? Just really hate the look when you cut the front of a intake off.
Thanks

sonny leonard ''SONNYS'' Located in Lynchburg VA.

lugnutt 01-02-2012 08:20 PM

Thanks all, I think Ill try Sonnys. I looked at KRE, didnt really see anything there. I may end up making one, I just wondered if someone had one "off the shelf"
Happy New year to you to Troy. How are you feeling? I hope all is well. Maybe see ya at the track next.. I mean this year if all goes well.
I do not have any spare rods. Are you looking for aluminum or steel?
I do have a spare Nod iron crank lightened and balanced for aluminum rods.

60man 01-03-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugnutt (Post 4509943)
Thanks all, I think Ill try Sonnys. I looked at KRE, didnt really see anything there. I may end up making one, I just wondered if someone had one "off the shelf"
Happy New year to you to Troy. How are you feeling? I hope all is well. Maybe see ya at the track next.. I mean this year if all goes well.
I do not have any spare rods. Are you looking for aluminum or steel?
I do have a spare Nod iron crank lightened and balanced for aluminum rods.

I'm starting to feel better these days....a good thing !! Hope it continues..:)
Just thinking ahead for aluminum rods for the 4.5 crank in the future..I assme 6.7's...let Jack call it...
Hope to catch ya at track...

GoatDr 01-03-2012 05:39 PM

Here is Kauffman's. Scroll down a bit.

http://www.krepower.com/Pontiac%20Intakes.htm

60man 01-04-2012 12:29 AM

I know KRE makes the cast crossover....But Bigchief468's intake & crossover (sheet metal) were made by KRE also...

Ron H 01-04-2012 09:57 PM

I am sure they make a sheet metal crossover, it is just not listed separately on their site. They show one in the picture of the sheet metal intake as well.

john marcella 01-05-2012 03:50 AM

Remote water manifold! I will post pics tomorrow. Way better way to go.

huddie 01-07-2012 10:08 PM

I am interested in the Pic and the idea of the remote water manifold.Thanks

john marcella 01-07-2012 11:03 PM

This is one of my 4 into 1 water manifolds. It's set up for 4 #10 o-ring fittings (but you can use a combination fitting that is up to #12) and 1 #20 o-ring on the opposing side.
I also make a 2 into 1 water manifold. It uses 2 #16 to 1 #20.
Both have provisions for NPT for water temp pick up.


http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0353.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0350.jpg

60man 01-08-2012 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4515616)
This is one of my 4 into 1 water manifolds. It's set up for 4 #10 o-ring fittings (but you can use a combination fitting that is up to #12) and 1 #20 o-ring on the opposing side.
I also make a 2 into 1 water manifold. It uses 2 #16 to 1 #20.
Both have provisions for NPT for water temp pick up.


http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0353.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0350.jpg

Interesting...is this something you make?..sell?
Could be used to pipe water from both ends of heads..:)

john marcella 01-08-2012 03:51 AM

Yes,yes and exactly. $135 No fittings, but they are not to much.
It packages way better and looks so much nicer, radiator hose is only about 4-6 inches long. And you can pull water from where ever you want!!!! If i get a chance i will take pics of my set up.

grandville455 01-08-2012 12:54 PM

VERY NICE ! I would love to see pics also!

60man 01-08-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4515773)
Yes,yes and exactly. $135 No fittings, but they are not to much.
It packages way better and looks so much nicer, radiator hose is only about 4-6 inches long. And you can pull water from where ever you want!!!! If i get a chance i will take pics of my set up.

Cool....would like to some pictures of your setup showing the water temp probe too...
Thanks

lugnutt 01-09-2012 01:50 PM

Manifold
 
That looks nice. Does the maniflold just hang there by the support of the hoses, or is there a mounting bracket? Do you make these? Do you stock these?

john marcella 01-10-2012 11:28 PM

This is my set up, its old-before the 2pcs billet design. I am picking up water between the middle exhaust ports.The water temp is in the middle of the water manifold.

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0409.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0410.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0411.jpg

quick67bird 01-10-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4515773)
Yes,yes and exactly. $135 No fittings, but they are not to much.
It packages way better and looks so much nicer, radiator hose is only about 4-6 inches long. And you can pull water from where ever you want!!!! If i get a chance i will take pics of my set up.

If we would like one of these manifolds how do we go about ordering one from you John?

john marcella 01-10-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quick67bird (Post 4518662)
If we would like one of these manifolds how do we go about ordering one from you John?

Call me. Marcella Manifolds 248-259-6696
Ill see if i have pics of the 2 into 1 as well. Buts its #16 to #20.
4 into 1 are in stock and i have one 2 into 1
$135 & $145 i can add a radiator cap as well +50

huddie 01-11-2012 01:59 AM

So,do you tap and plug the water pump housing?Thanks for the pic's.

quick67bird 01-11-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huddie (Post 4518785)
So,do you tap and plug the water pump housing?Thanks for the pic's.

Yeah. From what I understand a lot of people do not use the bypass anyways. A lot of racers either just use a restrictor or drill holes in the thermostat.

60man 01-11-2012 11:12 AM

Sent you a PM John...

grandville455 01-12-2012 01:38 PM

How would this work For My KRE Heads? Would U run a line to each in back ,and also to the two front one's too? Also street driven, So U plug the hole that normally goes to the cross over on the timing cover, and the nipple on the side of the timing cover too?

60man 02-06-2012 05:04 PM

Got my water maniflod today. Very nice quality !!!
Thank you John..
Troy

russosborne 02-06-2012 07:20 PM

Are these only for aluminum heads, or could they be used on factory iron heads as well?
Thanks,
Russ

huddie 02-21-2012 04:19 PM

If you get time could you post a pic of the two into one?Thanks,Lance

lugnutt 02-28-2013 11:23 PM

Manifold
 
I ordered one of these today (finally!). Just thought I'd bump this back up for John!

jm455ho 03-01-2013 07:04 PM

Got mine several weeks ago. Very nice piece.

jm455ho 03-03-2013 01:39 PM

[QUOTE=john marcella;4515616]This is one of my 4 into 1 water manifolds. It's set up for 4 #10 o-ring fittings (but you can use a combination fitting that is up to #12) and 1 #20 o-ring on the opposing side.
I also make a 2 into 1 water manifold. It uses 2 #16 to 1 #20.
Both have provisions for NPT for water temp pick up.


Anyone with a brand and part number for the #20 fitting?
Thanks
John

60man 03-03-2013 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=jm455ho;4868284]
Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4515616)
This is one of my 4 into 1 water manifolds. It's set up for 4 #10 o-ring fittings (but you can use a combination fitting that is up to #12) and 1 #20 o-ring on the opposing side.
I also make a 2 into 1 water manifold. It uses 2 #16 to 1 #20.
Both have provisions for NPT for water temp pick up.


Anyone with a brand and part number for the #20 fitting?
Thanks
John

Got mine from Jegs....don't have part # handy..I just looked under 20 AN in search window

john marcella 03-03-2013 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=jm455ho;4868284]
Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4515616)
This is one of my 4 into 1 water manifolds. It's set up for 4 #10 o-ring fittings (but you can use a combination fitting that is up to #12) and 1 #20 o-ring on the opposing side.
I also make a 2 into 1 water manifold. It uses 2 #16 to 1 #20.
Both have provisions for NPT for water temp pick up.


Anyone with a brand and part number for the #20 fitting?
Thanks
John


Jerry Bickel race cars or Rick Jones race cars has them, good price to.

beastmaster 03-04-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4518659)
This is my set up, its old-before the 2pcs billet design. I am picking up water between the middle exhaust ports.The water temp is in the middle of the water manifold.

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0409.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0410.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0411.jpg

John do have anything for the 3rd Gen Bird body style which the radiator sits lower than the top of the block.

R 70 Judge 07-25-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4515616)
This is one of my 4 into 1 water manifolds. It's set up for 4 #10 o-ring fittings (but you can use a combination fitting that is up to #12) and 1 #20 o-ring on the opposing side.
I also make a 2 into 1 water manifold. It uses 2 #16 to 1 #20.
Both have provisions for NPT for water temp pick up.


http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0353.jpg
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/IMG_0350.jpg

John are you bringing any of these with you to Norwalk?

john marcella 07-26-2013 12:06 AM

I will bring a few. Price has gone up though. 160$ My cost went way up on having them cut.

R 70 Judge 07-26-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john marcella (Post 4983480)
I will bring a few. Price has gone up though. 160$ My cost went way up on having them cut.

Thanks John. Still worth it for such a nice piece. Please save one for me if you can. Jim Robertson said he will stop by to pick it up for my build. If you still have any of the older style ones with the "M" on them that would be fine too. They are both works of art :cool2:

67cruiser 07-26-2013 01:00 AM

John, may i ask, its such a long run all the way around motor and back to your home connector,wouldn,t been better just to go under the intake??
Saving my pennys, i got to have one of these, I love the looks!! Opps thought lines went around backside of motor, my mistake!! Senoir citizen momment!!

RUDOLFSSON 07-26-2013 03:47 AM

Nice work!

Robert Williams 07-27-2013 04:26 PM

#20 o ring fitting to 1-1/2 rad hose...
 
got mine from jegs made by Meziere part number WN0032S this number is for a black fitting and they have other colors also.

67cruiser 07-31-2013 02:52 PM

John, How would you recomend running 2 hoses to the back of the heads on my RPM heads, under the intake??? Super piece, Congrats on this one for sure!!

john marcella 07-31-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67cruiser (Post 4988318)
John, How would you recomend running 2 hoses to the back of the heads on my RPM heads, under the intake??? Super piece, Congrats on this one for sure!!

Yes , under the intake. Ideally you want to keep the water constantly moving upward to avoid air pockets.

67cruiser 07-31-2013 05:33 PM

Thank You Very Much

lugnutt 06-07-2016 09:09 AM

John, are you still making these?

cgeise 06-07-2016 01:23 PM

CSR makes one similar but with provisions for a cap

john marcella 06-09-2016 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugnutt (Post 5586117)
John, are you still making these?

Yup in stock

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/q...pscxk5mlp1.jpg

Tom Vaught 06-09-2016 10:05 PM

Some really nice parts there Mr Marcella.

Tom Vaught

Bill Eveland 06-10-2016 11:27 AM

Current price or is it still 160? Nice piece

john marcella 06-10-2016 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Eveland (Post 5587727)
Current price or is it still 160? Nice piece

The one I recently posted is the new version, it is smaller and lighter than the last design! Current pricing is 180 but if you call me and mention that you saw this thread i will honor the 160 price.


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