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supercar 11-12-2012 10:58 PM

How would you have ordered a new 68 Firebird 400 Convertible?
 
How would you have ordered a new 68 Firebird 400 Convertible? Options, color combinations,engine, transmission,wheels,etc. What would you order to make it the ultimate 68?

rexs73gto 11-13-2012 01:43 AM

68 bird vert 4 spd. , Ram Air II, posi, am/fm radio, hood tach, HD cooling, PDB, Ralley II wheels, Red Lines, Gauges, wood wheel, Deluex interior, rear spoiler, & go out & have some fun.:jumping:

65blackplate 11-13-2012 01:59 AM

i think i would have waited and ordered a 69 t/a lol

wovenweb 11-13-2012 07:02 AM

Rear spoiler? That was an option? I thought you could only get those on a Camaro. :)

Otherwise, Rex's list is pretty good except I would have stuck with a deluxe steering wheel. Looks better in the Firebirds, IMHO. The wood wheel is great for the GTO's...but a 'bird isn't a goat. To that list I would add:

564 Power Bucket Seat (4 way)
501 Power Steering
502 Power Brakes(don't recall if there is overlap with this as ordering discs)
551 Power Window Lifts
394 Stereo Tape Player
424 Remote Control Mirror(Outside L.H.)
492 Remote Control Deck Lid Release
634 Adjustable Shocks, Front & Rear(Koni)
531 Soft Ray Glass (All Windows)
472 Console, Front Compartment Floor
474 Clock, Electric
431 Belts, Custom Front and Rear Seat
432 Belts, Rear Seat Shoulder
754 Belt, Front Seat Shoulder
571 Head Restraints
524 Custom Gearshift Knob
332 Lamp Group
671 Under Hood Lamp
631 Floor Mats, Front Pair
632 Floor Mats, Rear Pair
732 Floor Mat, Trunk


I think that is all. There may be some conflict with a couple items such as the 8 track and the console clock.

By going convertible, it isn't an all out race car so I would load it with what I could get "luxury" item wise. Much of which is standard equipment on many cars today. If possible, I would order another with the TH400 and get the Cruise Control. Would they let me do all this to a Ram Air II car? I do have a '68 convertible that I'm working on which is a 400 auto car with alot of these options. Unfortunately, not the original drivetrain.

The Boss 11-13-2012 07:32 AM

Voodoo green, white top, parchment deluxe interior.

Optioned like above, but no power windows, maybe fold down rear seat and of course the deuce. ;)

wovenweb 11-13-2012 07:36 AM

I forgot the fold down rear seat!

Cammer-6 11-13-2012 09:10 AM

am I the only one here that is sick of that army green?
and yes in 68 you could get non power disc brakes

wovenweb 11-13-2012 09:15 AM

I can't answer for others, but I grew up with Army green, both my parents served in Army green. The color scheme shifted a bit while I served, but there was always equipment that color around. Hmm, maybe that is why I like it so much.

rohrt 11-13-2012 09:48 AM

Going off what the other have said, I would order mine like this. I built mine to be very close.

68 bird vert 3 spd Auto. Solor Red or Autum Bronze, black top, Ram Air II, posi, am/fm radio, hood tach, HD cooling, Power Disc Brakes, Ralley II wheels, Red Lines, Gauges, wood wheel(I like the wood wheel myself), Standard interior. (I'm not a fan of the Delux interior).
424 Remote Control Mirror(Outside L.H.)
Rear antenna (maybe it came with the AM/FM?)
474 Clock, Electric (If that is the one on the center consol)
fold down rear seat!
Under Hood Lamp
631 Floor Mats, Front Pair
632 Floor Mats, Rear Pair
732 Floor Mat, Trunk
431 Belts, Custom Front and Rear Seat
571 Head Restraints

Gator67 11-13-2012 09:51 AM

If I were ordering it for me, it would be a triple black, RAII, 4 speed, Rally II red lines, gauges, hood tach, deluxe wheel, soft ray glass.

If I were ordering it for my wife, it would be pretty much just like the car she has now...Alpine Blue, Parchment, white top, white HO stripes, hood tach, TH400, safe-T-track, PS, PB, A/C, Cruise, AM/FM, rear antenna, rear seat speaker, deluxe interior, power top, soft ray all windows, custom sport steering wheel, console, clock, dual exhaust, rally II...only thing to add would be gauges, 3.08 gears (rather than the 2.56 that came with the car), red lines (rather than white walls that came with the car), and most likely the full HO package...

muscle_collector 11-13-2012 01:28 PM

how would you order now knowing what you do and not using it as your only means of transportation or back then as a driver?????

jinxd68 11-13-2012 03:11 PM

Flambeaux Burgundy, deluxe white int, PS, PDB, Rally II's with redlines, RA II 400, M-20, 3.55 safety-trac rear, white power top, Rally gauges, hood tach, center console w/clock, am/fm radio.
don't know if you could get a m-20 with the RA II not into the ra car options.
BTW I have a 68 burg 400 auto deluxe white int power top, ps, rally gauge with console and wire wheel hubcaps. complete numbers matching car... will be nice when finished

rexs73gto 11-13-2012 05:25 PM

To the past post that didn't know you could get the rear spoiler for your 68 bird, Yes you could get it, either from the factory or as a dealer added option. the dealer add on was more expensive but some waited because the dealer would usually shy away from them because it made them to hard to sell with because some looked at as a race car with them so many were ordered without it for most any dealer stocking cars. Also I forgot to mention I would have had the 3.55 rear gear in mine as that was the best all around gear for a bird with a Ram Air II. OH! i forgot to say the verts were stiffer because of the body brace because of it being a vert. And the color is Verdao Green not Voodo green.

frankyboy455 11-13-2012 06:19 PM

don't forget radial tires...they were available as an option.

brians 11-13-2012 06:51 PM

I would love to state “triple black RAII, 4sp. no other options”
The rest of the money goes to multiple sets of rear tires. :D

But just like in 2002 when I really wanted to order a Firehawk T/A, the reality is - it would have been a used 1967 green 6cyl.

R68GTO 11-13-2012 08:23 PM

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BTW I have a 68 burg 400 auto deluxe white int power top, ps, rally gauge with console and wire wheel hubcaps. complete numbers matching car... will be nice when finished

Jinx, i've got the duplicate to that in a 68 GTO. Shown here with Hurst wheels but I have the original wire wheel covers as well.

The Boss 11-13-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rexs73gto (Post 4779120)
And the color is Verdao Green not Voodo green.

Close - it's Verdoro Green, Code Q.

Throw a little Hendrix on, get in the mindset & you'll be calling it Voodoo too! ;)

Cammer-6 11-13-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rexs73gto (Post 4779120)
To the past post that didn't know you could get the rear spoiler for your 68 bird, Yes you could get it, either from the factory or as a dealer added option. the dealer add on was more expensive but some waited because the dealer would usually shy away from them because it made them to hard to sell with because some looked at as a race car with them so many were ordered without it for most any dealer stocking cars. Also I forgot to mention I would have had the 3.55 rear gear in mine as that was the best all around gear for a bird with a Ram Air II. OH! i forgot to say the verts were stiffer because of the body brace because of it being a vert. And the color is Verdao Green not Voodo green.

Im calling BS on that one

in 69 I bought a 68 Camaro spoiler for my 68 Bird.
It was $17 list price and my cost(dealer net) was $14.
Until 69 T/A there was no Pontiac Firebird spoilers dealer or factory

355 and M20 was not available in 68 RA

supercar 11-13-2012 09:04 PM

Thanks for the replies, the reason I was asking is I have a 68 PHS documented 400 Convertible that was originally Flambeau Burgandy, Red standard interior, and 3 speed transmission. It is currently a late model Bright White, Black standard interior, NOM,hood tach, and 4 speed transmission.It is as good a car as I have ever owned, PO did a good job on mechanics and body work. I don't like the Bright White and want to paint it a 68 color. Also, I ordered a new Parchment standard interior from Legendary and have it ready to install. Red interiors tend to fade and I have always loved the 68 Pearl Parchment. I was originally going to paint it the Burgandy but I have not been able to find it in modern formulas. I was thinking really serious about Voodoo Green. PPG has the formula for it in their new Muscle Colors line. It won't ever be a numbers matching car but I want to showcase how good a 68 Bird can look in a sea of Camaros. I know I want the original style exhast splitters, does anyone have a source for them? I also have 14x7 rally II wheels and will order Diamondback redlines soon. This car is also equipped with tilt wheel and wood wheel. I have a set of Longbranch manifolds to install and will install Ram Air pans.Car is presently equipped with a Camaro spoiler which I may remove and install a new deck lid. What would you guys do?

keith k 11-13-2012 09:04 PM

Aleutian Blue, white top, deluxe teal interior, rally IIs, power steering, power disc brakes, gauges, hood tach, custom belts, wood wheel, M21, RAII, Safe-T-Track, exhaust extensions, custom pedal trim, head rests, ride & handling package, radial whitewalls.

Oh, and I'd delete the convertible top and add a white vinyl top :)

Doug Hopkins 11-13-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cammer-6 (Post 4779308)
Im calling BS on that one

in 69 I bought a 68 Camaro spoiler for my 68 Bird.
It was $17 list price and my cost(dealer net) was $14.
Until 69 T/A there was no Pontiac Firebird spoilers dealer or factory

355 and M20 was not available in 68 RA

I totally agree with you Cammer, X2 on the BS. Never saw a PHS with that option,or an original 67 or 68 with a spoiler. I was sixteen in 1968, and I don't remember a Firebird with a rear spoiler. Only saw them on Camaro.

A Schab 11-13-2012 09:27 PM

If your asking what to do with the spoiler my opinion would bo get rid of it.The only place for a rear spoiler on a first gen Firebird is a 69 T/A.Why make your car look like a Camaro.Most don't know that the spoiler was not even an option on a 67 Camaro,it started in 68.

wovenweb 11-13-2012 11:56 PM

I forgot tilt wheel.

wovenweb 11-13-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Hopkins (Post 4779341)
I totally agree with you Cammer, X2 on the BS. Never saw a PHS with that option,or an original 67 or 68 with a spoiler. I was sixteen in 1968, and I don't remember a Firebird with a rear spoiler. Only saw them on Camaro.

Me 3 on the spoiler. Not listed or otherwise documented anywhere.

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-14-2012 02:51 AM

I've been thinking all evening trying to decide what color(s).
This is way too big of a decision to rush into. :D

Its gonna have a rear spoiler on it before the first oil change i promise you that. :p
Bird door panels, Bird steering wheel, and Bird GLASS. Must haves.
Ram2 4spd Rally2 and anything else i can afford.
The bank will have to decide whether its a stripper or a movie star.

Cammer-6 11-14-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin (Post 4779535)
I've been thinking all evening trying to decide what color(s).
This is way too big of a decision to rush into. :D

Its gonna have a rear spoiler on it before the first oil change i promise you that. :p
Bird door panels, Bird steering wheel, and Bird GLASS. Must haves.
Ram2 4spd Rally2 and anything else i can afford.
The bank will have to decide whether its a stripper or a movie star.

you acquiring parts to build?
I still want that wheel to make a scan of

Captainofiron 11-14-2012 05:10 PM

with a roof... just joking

Baron Von Zeppelin 11-14-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammer-6 (Post 4779602)
you acquiring parts to build?
I still want that wheel to make a scan of

Nope no Bird build plans going on.
Just dreaming like most of the others.

I gotta get those pics this week if possible :o

71SportRagtop 11-14-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boss (Post 4778728)
Voodoo green, white top, parchment deluxe interior.

Optioned like above, but no power windows, maybe fold down rear seat and of course the deuce. ;)

Sounds like a car I know


VVVVVV

importsmasher 11-14-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brians (Post 4779213)
I would love to state “triple black RAII, 4sp. no other options”
The rest of the money goes to multiple sets of rear tires. :D

X2. All the go fast goodies, nothing more. No power anything...Sure a hardtop would be a more serious race car, but convertibles are just plain cool. a 67-68 Bird is on my wish list.....

Importsmasher

RR67GTO 11-15-2012 01:03 AM

Ram Air to of course.

bluebird68 11-15-2012 04:04 AM

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Alpine Blue, parchment pearl interior, black top, console auto, 3.9 safe-T-track. Was ordered with HO stripes and red walls, white air scoops were added later, lots of other options. Would have been a stunner in 68. I have no history but who ever ordered it got the best, if it was up to me I would have added the hood mounted tacho. Bruce

71GP76TA 11-16-2012 08:50 PM

triple black...400...4 speed....highway gears......power disc brakes....manual steering.....console.....hood tach....gauges.....power top.....tilt wheel....rally II's.....red lines....deluxe interior....

Doug Hopkins 11-18-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 71GP76TA (Post 4782134)
triple black...400...4 speed....highway gears......power disc brakes....manual steering.....console.....hood tach....gauges.....power top.....tilt wheel....rally II's.....red lines....deluxe interior....

X2 but add the RAII motor and Safe-T-Trac

supercar 11-18-2012 11:47 PM

Thanks for the replies. I think I will get a 1/2 pint of Verdero Green from Dupont and 1/2 pint of Flambeau Burgandy from PPG and spray them out on a card and see which one looks the best with the Pearl Parchment interior. Some of the modern formulas just don't look right. Anyway I am going to try to make as sharp a 68 as I can.


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