First Look @@ High Performance Injuns SpeedMaster Heads
 

Nice thread with lots of pics in the Street Section.

I have to say, castings do look nice. Now lets see what some CNC programs can do ?

Will be interesting to see users feedback about both quality, use and actual performance. Are these cast and machined locally?

These are SpeedMaster heads that we are adding to the line up. An affordable alternative to the current offerings. Check out the Street Section for lots of info.

Slice 'n Dice
 

Why destroy a brand new $700+ head? Because we want to offer our customers Quality and Affordable Reliability. I have more slicing to do and will be publishing the results in an upcoming magazine article.

So far these heads are exceeding expectations and that's exactly what we want to do.

From the first group of pics, I don't see any garbage in the aluminum mix, no inclusions. I would suggest trying to drive out a guide to gauge the press on it. Doing the same with the seats will be more difficult. Looks like adequate material in the head bolt column. Only thing I see in the pics so far is any changes to the spring seat for larger, or more installed height should probably be done with diameter and valve length only. Looks like water is fairly close under the spring seats. Probably wouldn't risk cutting down more than .030" or so for clean-up. Keep up the good work.

Doesnt appear to have much water flow between center exhaust bowls, that area might get hot and see head gasket issues

There is actually more space there than with the Edelbrocks.

I've never seen an e-head cut up but a KRE HP heads have good cooling between center exhaust bowls

If you care to do more testing on the quality of aluminium, send me a chunk of the head.. I will have our lab ( I work at an aluminium casting and exstrusion plant) run it through a bunch of tests...
I will send the results to you and you can do what you want with them..

Thanks Scott! PM me the address and I'll get you some material. This is how we all advance the Pontiac hobby - working together!

PM sent..

That's awfully nice of you...I thought being nice was against your beliefs. :D

I'm not really an asshole, I just play one on the net..

SpeedMaster Heads Quality Update.

We received the band saw blade today so tomorrow I'll be at it again. Slicin' 'n Dicin'

I've learned that with all SpeedMaster products, the R&D and engineering is all performed at their headquarters in Australia. The castings are made in China and the CNC machine work and assembly is all done right here in the USA. So these heads are truly international and many families are getting fed making these heads.

My experience with Chinese "hard engine parts", is that machining performed in the US with US inspections and machine maintenance greatly improves the finished product. So that is good news. If I was Speedmaster, I wouldn't hide the steps you just found out, I would advertise the information. Another example of a company that can make this production method work is Molnar. Design and engineering in the US, Rough product from China, finish machining and inspection in the US. Need to get some of these heads on the track and street ASAP and really try and "prove them".

That's another reason we are a WD with Molnar too.

Looks like the price is going up 25%!


GTO George

Yep, Narellan Sydney is their big warehouse now. I did some work for Pete (owner of Speedmaster) a little while back as he wanted to develop an FI-carb like a Holley Sniper or FiTech and I started the R&D project for him after I paired him up with the Megasquirt guys. Should give him a call as I made him a few test throttle body systems and just needed a motor to run them on to v'fy everything. It's taken him a while to get here in terms of quality, but some of the stuff they produce now is nothing like their old 'cheap' gear. Awesome to hear the heads are a winner!

Let’s see a set of heads on the track first!

GTO George

I believe Scat does their final machine work here too.

Would this lower rail work? It would be a 10" long piece 3/8" X 3/8"

More Pics
 

Lots of good commentary on https://www.facebook.com/PontiacSpeedShop/

More Pics

In the first picture, that other half of the head is going to Dave Wilcox for a Mild Street Porting job on one cylinder and a Wild Race Porting job on the other.

Thanks for the pictures and all the work for our hobby... It would be very valuable to have similar shots of e-heads, kre, wenzler, factory etc....


Kris.

Hey, the casting quality looks better than High Ports. When Dave is done with them we will know a lot more.

We've also sent a material sample to be tested and the composition mapped. Then we'll know how strong they re and what they're made of.

SpeedMaster Heads Material Test
 

Thanks to Scott Roberts we have the tests back on the SpeedMaster Heads. I know not everyone can understand these results but what it comes down to is, as Scott states it, "Basically the aluminum is good quality A356".

Good material, good machine work, good price. Looks like a good head.
$1799 a pair complete with free shipping. PayPal.me/RPMtv

Good job, I hope you sell a bunch of them!

The tensile test put it right at the bottom scale of 6061 and top scale of A356..to be honest , I was surprised by the quality of the aluminium since it was Chinese.....

The Chinese have been infamous for dumping junk quality parts on the rest of the world. The same was true of vacuum tube production. If you wanted to see smoke from your electronics, a set of Chinese output tubes was sure to get the job done. They were even worse than the Russian consumer crap.

Once perestroika took effect, Russian tube manufacturers were forced to look for other clients, outside of their military. Turns out that Russian military tubes were very well built. Many of their tubes are interchangeable, or very close to European/American tubes. They have pretty much been the go-to guys for quality new production.

Someone finally convinced the Chinese to try making and selling a high quality line of tubes. they hired the right people from England, locally and elsewhere and now there are superb Chinese tubes to be had.

Psvane, Treasure, Genalex Golden Dragon are a few examples. They are not cheap, but they are high quality.

Bottom line is that the Chinese CAN make high quality parts for our consumption. Trick is finding the correct sources. Speedmaster has evidently done just that. I wish them well!

This is a complete idiotic comment. Why so many people don’t trust internet experts.

If you want to make an educated comment, purchase both heads and do real testing. Send it to someone who can actually test the hardness of the heads, the casting quality, machine work etc...

It looks like an edelbrock head just copied without their name and the ports further developed. Just my distant observation without buying the head, this head will not out perform the KRE HP.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

Clearly it will never out perform an HP head... but the quality of the head seems to be good by the tests performed and the cut away sections...
This head will fit in the budget build street performance class in my opinion... It looks like a good option for the masses... I would run it on a weekend cruiser.

Hey creep, you crawl out from under your slimy rock to crack on a old post ? And a very basic one at that.
Everyone else knew what I meant. They have checked out to be good quality casting and the aluminum itself looks to also be of high quality.
Now when Dave, a truly talented head porter does a few ports and gets the results in we will know a lot more.
Is that too complicated a statement for you ?
And I made the post to be nice to Randy. He is a true Pontiac die hard. I am friends with one of his pals from way back. He has wanted to start his own dedicated Pontiac business for a long time and finally done it.
Its a good story and we all should be happy for him.

There is a genuine market for Pontiac head packages. This price for 310cfm, this price for 340cfm and on up. Simple basic this price for this level of performance.

Don't you have a house to paint or something ?

BTW, the KRE comparison was simply about casting appearance. I do not think this head will out perform the High Port.
And these are one more nail in the CV coffin.

BTW, I will not respond to you any more on this thread. Too much respect for what Randy and Dave are trying to do. If you want to take it to the Clubhouse I am more than fine with that. Keep them out of it. slowbird and chiefblowhard too. These people are doing something difficult and so are the Warp 6 GTO guys.

You own KRE heads, your heads look bad? Poor quality? If so way you running them?
I wish him luck with these heads. I just wish he'd offer something new, like iron replacements.

Even from the "Cheap Seats" :D I can tell this is going to be good.

:popcorn:

Stan

Hi Calvin,
You may have missed it or just didn't invest the time to read the previous posts, but High Performance Injuns has done the testing and provided the information and provided the flow numbers and sliced up a head for your viewing pleasure.
Whatever history you and Dragncar have please take it outside of this thread. Thank you.

How much are these bare?

$1549 a pair with free shipping

Aren't Edebrock's right around $1600 bare? So $50 savings?

Summit lists a single bare head with CNC chamber at $870 USD - https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...w/make/pontiac

Link says single head, CNC is US $870.50.

Confused?

List of all;

https://www.summitracing.com/search/...0%2B4294918484

That's cause i'm a tard, I left the currency in AUD from my last purchase to get a rough conversion - oops :(

No worries mate!

Eddys are $870.50 each so $1741.00 a pair. We sell SpeedMasters at $1549.00 a pair so the old school math makes it a $192 .00 savings plus 100% of the profit from your purchase goes toward further Pontiac Injuneering from a Pure Pontiac Company.

I guess it depends who you buy from as to how much you save or dont save.

We sell these for less than Summit and we support the Pontiac hobby with INJUN WARS and continuing Pontiac Injuneering. Where you spend your money does matter.

Videos of Running Injun with Speedmaster Heads
 

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Enjoy