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misterp266 07-08-2024 08:42 AM

Oops . . .
 
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What happened here? :rolleyes:
http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...8&d=1720442445

thepontiacman 07-08-2024 08:45 AM

Maybe the rear car pushed the van on top of the Pontiac. Had to be a hard hit.

67drake 07-08-2024 10:49 AM

Morgan Wallen threw it off the roof

indymanjoe 07-08-2024 10:59 AM

Thats funny ^^^^

b-man 07-08-2024 12:00 PM

Well that is a sexy-looking ‘65 Tempest there, so……Smash !

:D

Mr_GTO 07-08-2024 12:06 PM

Wow that looks like Southie or Dorchester.

johnta1 07-08-2024 12:39 PM

You know the van probably had a sign that said: "Don't Laugh it might be your daughter in here!".


Well it was the car driver's wife in there and was getting revenge?


:D

VCho455 07-08-2024 01:03 PM

The van fell off an overpass or viaduct.

b-man 07-08-2024 01:35 PM

The ‘57 Chevy slammed into the back of the VW bus which is a fairly lightweight vehicle. This particular type is outfitted as a camper with a subhatch cut into the roof so it’s probably around 2600 pounds, easily a thousand pounds lighter than the Chevy.

Those old Westfalia camper conversions were built off of a basic panel bus which weighed a scant 2200 pounds since they’re basically an empty box.

The bus being lightweight with higher ground clearance was shoved into the Tempest and it popped up while being shoved by the Chevy. The heavy damage on the back of the Tempest was caused by the front of the Chevy impacting it hard, after that the bus settled back down onto the front of the Chevy.

Must’ve really been something to see, that’s a crazy and unusual end result.

242177P 07-08-2024 03:50 PM

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While looking for something more on
this accident, I encountered... this. 276
windows on just 12 busses. $$$.

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...1&d=1720467761

b-man 07-08-2024 03:56 PM

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A buddy of mine sold his 1962 very nicely restored 23 window Deluxe Samba bus several years ago for 160k so definitely if in cherry condition big $$$.

He sold it to an acquaintance rather than go to the trouble of advertising it so I’m sure he left some money on the table.

It’s the 23 window buses (they have the rear corner windows) and 21 window buses (1964-1967 had a wider rear hatch so no corner windows) that bring the high dollars with the 23 being much more sought after and therefore more expensive. As a general rule the older the more valuable when it comes to VWs.

Jonsie 07-08-2024 04:23 PM

I had one of those pop-up campers in my hippie days, white one like the OP, lotsa good times

sdbob 07-09-2024 07:11 AM

It almost looks a 55-56 pontiac in rear with flat tires pushed the vw against the 65. The vw doesnt seem to have enough rear end damage for the damage to the 65.

Half-Inch Stud 07-09-2024 07:50 AM

Movie scene?

sdbob 07-09-2024 08:58 AM

Relooked the rear car doesn't have the chrome hood "suspenders,". I was wondering if the rear car may have been pushed by a heavy vehicle.

71GP76TA 07-09-2024 11:14 AM

VW is trying to "get it on" with The Tempest.

67drake 07-09-2024 11:28 AM

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I don’t see too many around here, but was just behind one yesterday after reading this thread.

71GP76TA 07-09-2024 11:31 AM

Car behind the VW looks like a '57 Olds.

VCho455 07-09-2024 02:39 PM

Quick overview of the 23-window market.

https://bringatrailer.com/auctions/r...arch=23-window

b-man 07-09-2024 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by VCho455 (Post 6513801)
Quick overview of the 23-window market.

https://bringatrailer.com/auctions/r...arch=23-window

Any of those buses listed as conversions meaning built from a non-original 23 window have a considerably lower value.

And let’s also understand that any non-German built buses from Brazil are usually cobbled together third-world nightmares. All those split windshield buses from the 1970s are Brazilian and honestly almost nobody but the truly uninformed VW enthusiasts want them. The value of Brazilian split buses is much much lower than anything from Germany.

Split bus production was over with after the 1967 model year, the first year of production was 1950.

May all your split buses be German, both of mine definitely are. :)

b-man 07-09-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 67drake (Post 6513755)
I don’t see too many around here, but was just behind one yesterday after reading this thread.

That’s what’s referred to as a Bay Window bus, 1968 and later.

The front windshield is curved one-piece glass, the single side cargo door is a slider unlike earlier buses that had 2 separate hinged cargo doors. Some later splits did have a single sliding cargo door option but it’s extremely rare. The bay bus has longer front doors and more foot room up front and has roll-up windows unlike the sliding windows on split buses that only open up for half the window size.

Also note the long rectangular side windows. 1967 and earlier buses had multiple square side windows for passenger buses.

That particular bus is 1968-1971 which still retains the oval ‘canned ham’ style taillights used from 1962-1967 on split buses.

In my VW club the bay buses vastly outnumber the split buses by about 5 to 1 because bay buses cost only about one half to one third of a split bus.

The somewhat ratty black and white 1966 21 window pictured belongs to a friend who threw down 40k to buy it and then spent probably another 5k and a year of his spare time to get it in the road. It’s a European spec bus that didn’t come with bumper guards or overriders and has extra long Deluxe trim on the bumpers because of that. It still has a few rust issues but not enough to not be roadworthy.

MarkS57 07-09-2024 03:32 PM

A little off topic but my first boss at 17 was a guy that exclusively repaired VW's. This was 1974, he was The Man when it came to VW repair, made a fortune doing it. Appointments only. He owned at least 8 antique cars. Some typical like Model A's, some high buck stuff like a beautiful Packard for one.

SD73 07-09-2024 04:31 PM

...and this is where Corvairs come from.

Dave R 07-09-2024 05:28 PM

Is it the photo angle or is the VW Bug in the back oversized?:confused2

b-man 07-09-2024 05:45 PM

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Is it the photo angle or is the VW Bug in the back oversized?:confused2

Photo angle I’m sure.

Or more likely the iPhone I use always takes sort of distorted pictures like a fisheye lens would depending on how close you are to the subject.

71GP76TA 07-09-2024 07:00 PM

Back in the 50's when my mom was a kid (she's 78 now). Her parents.. (my grandparents) had a 23 window with a sunroof. My mom thinks it was a 1955 or 56. There were 5 children so they needed the seating. Around that same time my grandpas brother had a split window bug... I think it was a '50 or '51 IIRC. When I was a little kid (I'm 56 now) back in the early 70's. My grandpa had a '59 single cab truck. I remember riding in it and thought it was a weird vehicle at the time. I'm not a VW guy... never understood why people are so into them. They are kinda neat little cars.. but not my thing.

b-man 07-09-2024 07:15 PM

They have universal appeal.

They were really the first small imports that actually made an impact.

The early split buses are a very hot commodity now, buy as many as you can even if you don’t care for them.

Money in the bank.

My pickup gets more looks and thumbs up from more types of people than anything I’ve ever driven. My panel bus gets its share of love too, especially when it was rocking the wide whites. :)

People really take notice of the funky old VW buses, old GTOs and Trans Ams not as much. I think because most people just don’t know what they’re looking at when it comes to old muscle and they’re just not all that different from a regular car in most people’s eyes.

71GP76TA 07-09-2024 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by b-man (Post 6513855)
They have universal appeal.

They were really the first small imports that actually made an impact.

The early split buses are a very hot commodity now, buy as many as you can even if you don’t care for them.

Money in the bank.

My pickup gets more looks and thumbs up from more types of people than anything I’ve ever driven. My panel bus gets its share of love too, especially when it was rocking the wide whites. :)

People really take notice of the funky old VW buses, old GTOs and Trans Ams not so much.

If my grandpa was still alive.. He'd be blown away at what that bus would be worth today.

b-man 07-09-2024 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 71GP76TA (Post 6513859)
If my grandpa was still alive.. He'd be blown away at what that bus would be worth today.

In pristine condition and especially if it was an unrestored survivor you’d be looking at a quarter million. :hooray:


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