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fyrebird68 08-19-2006 07:04 PM

How the heck do these go?
 
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Front inner fender splash shields for 68-69 GTO. I have turned these every which way, and haven't found a fit yet. I don't know where on the wheel well they go, or even which end is up, or front ...:o

Could use some friendly advice. A pic of these items installed in your goat would be priceless.

:)

Regards.
Bob Trimpe

David Jones 08-19-2006 09:50 PM

The rectangular ones go on the square cut outs on the inner fender above the upper control arms. Held in with some big staples. I've never replaced the others. They go in the inner fender (wheel side) frame contact area.

fyrebird68 08-20-2006 10:49 AM

That takes care of one set of staple holes - thanks.

Anybody got any info on the odd-shaped piece?

Bob Trimpe

Greg Reid 08-20-2006 11:29 AM

Yeah. My camera is on the blink or I could take a pic of it for you. It goes along the lower rear edge of the wheel house.
David says wheel side and I'm not going to argue that although mine are on the outside of the wheelhouse (cowl side).
At the rear of the wheelhouse, you'll see two holes that are nearly an inch in diameter. That wedge shaped cutout is an opening for the two holes. The lower hole is located near the curved apex of the cutout.
Beyond that, the shield pretty much follows the contour of the lower edge of the wheelhouse with the hole in the apex as the locator.
Don't know if that's clear or not. I'm going to look through my pics. I may have one in the pile that shows it in place.

Greg Reid 08-20-2006 11:40 AM

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Here you go....

fyrebird68 08-21-2006 02:15 PM

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So, it fits like this ... (pic). I was waaay off on guessing this one.

How much of the flap hangs below the edge of the wheelwell?

Thanks,
Bob Trimpe

Greg Reid 08-21-2006 07:29 PM

NO...One mistake. What you have labeled as "inner" is actually the outer. What you've got labeled "Engine compartment" is the outer. The narrow end that you have labeled "Outer" actually terminates at the opening for the upper control arm...Which is where the square shaped splash shield takes up.
Not very much of it hangs down. Maybe 2 to 3 inches in one area, none of it at all in others.
If you get that hole positioned in the cutout properly and get the narrow end in line with the edge of the control arm opening, you'll be in good shape.

Greg Reid 08-21-2006 07:49 PM

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Here's another pic of the same wheelhouse taken the same time from the front. You can see the splash guard at the top of the pic.
You can see that this is the driver's side wheelhouse.

fyrebird68 08-22-2006 08:15 AM

Thanks, Greg. Pictures are just what I needed.

Regards,
Bob Trimpe

LPete 08-25-2006 11:01 PM

The seals at the rear of the skirts on my '69 are upside down compared to Greg's -- the large cutout faces down on mine. I'm sure they've never been off, but I can't promise they were installed correctly at the factory.

I'll try to get pictures in a day or two.

Greg Reid 08-26-2006 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LPete
I'm sure they've never been off, but I can't promise they were installed correctly at the factory..

Same here LOL!

fyrebird68 08-29-2006 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LPete
The seals at the rear of the skirts on my '69 are upside down compared to Greg's -- the large cutout faces down on mine.
I'll try to get pictures in a day or two.

Pete, have you had a chance to get pics?

Bob Trimpe

LPete 08-29-2006 11:54 AM

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Pete, have you had a chance to get pics?

Bob Trimpe

Sorry about the delay... too many irons in the fire.

This is one side (I took the seals of the other side already, but they were mounted the same way). Hopefully these will help -- let me know if you need a different shot.

Lee

fyrebird68 08-29-2006 12:47 PM

Wow, two opposite replies from two credible sources, looking at two cars that have obviously been together a long time. :confused:

Thanks for taking the time to research and photograph, guys. At least I know which part of the well they go on. Let you know if I come across any more info on these.

Regards,
Bob Trimpe

LPete 08-29-2006 02:37 PM

I'm sure Greg's are wrong. ;)

I don't have most of my car here at the moment, so I can't tell how the seals fit and why the cutouts are where they are. I'll hopefully be putting it back together in the next few weeks, so I'll let you know if I come up with anything.

I wonder if the factory assembly manual has anything? I'll look there, too.

aitstra 08-29-2006 05:10 PM

Mine are like LPete's. They look correct on the car because the tab forms a little mud flap behind the front tire, just behind the metal "tab" haning down. There was only one set of staple holes.

Greg Reid 08-29-2006 06:04 PM

I really can't tolerate being wrong so I'm sure I'm right. ;)

68GTOJoe 09-01-2006 11:56 PM

Inner Fender Seals
 
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Hey guys,
I have an original factory install (all be it in horrible shape) and sorry to say Greg, but this is one of those rare instances where you were wrong. Since LPete's is the same as mine, I declare majority rule.:Peace:

:confused2 Now...I have to staple new seals to my newly restored inners - so how in the world do you staple them? I bought repop seals with staples. What would you/have you guys used? This may sound silly, but I don't feel like ruining all my hard work. Thanks for any help!
-Joe

Greg Reid 09-02-2006 01:48 AM

Well, I guess it had to happen sometime. I'm almost 50 years old now and that's the first time I've ever been (suspected of being) wrong.

LPete 09-02-2006 09:49 AM

I'd blame it on age. :)

I'm 46 and just learning to use that excuse. Like they say, I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

Have a great weekend!


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