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AdamHoud 09-02-2007 10:29 PM

RA Manifolds came in today...concerns
 
So I received my manifolds today from RARE, they seem to be good overall except for the middle port on one side....here are some pictures.

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form74 09-02-2007 10:43 PM

Adamhound, contact paul at Ram air and talk to him, he will make it right. He is very customer orientated.

Big Injun 09-03-2007 12:58 AM

These are sand castings. Where you expecting a CNC port?

b-man 09-03-2007 02:51 AM

'D' Port shape, or sealing surface problem?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Injun
These are sand castings. Where you expecting a CNC port?

Adan, are you referring to the lack of material in the divider between the ports? I'm talking about the sealing surface only here.

It looks like there is not enough material in that area to clean up when the sealing surface was milled, like an incomplete casting. The 2nd and 4th pics look like this to me.

A small 'line' at the seam in the very center of the divider itself is acceptable, but not a big void where the entire divider won't seal against a gasket. Am I being fooled by the pics here? A little hard to tell exactly.:confused:

If I'm mistaken and you are only referring to the small imperfection (lack of material affecting only the 'D' port shape itself) at the bottom right corner of the port on the left, it's nothing to be concerned about.

AdamHoud 09-03-2007 03:38 AM

I was referring to the line in the center, it runs on both sides of each port...just wondering if that is acceptable.

b-man 09-03-2007 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHoud
I was referring to the line in the center, it runs on both sides of each port...just wondering if that is acceptable.

Quite a few factory manifolds are like that too, not an issue to be concerned about.

As a matter of fact, one manifold doesn't even have that center divider on most sets of stock standard log manifolds.

I would think that many sets of those new RA manifolds are like that, that won't affect the way they function. If you're using the stock steel shim manifold gaskets (I did with mine), they are wide-open in the center and don't even seal in the divider area anyway.

AdamHoud 09-03-2007 04:02 AM

I have some fel pro gaskets to go with it.

GonicGM 09-03-2007 07:21 AM

Are the fel-pros steel shim or paper. I'd use the factory style beaded steel shim myself. Additionally, a very thin coat of exhaust sealer, like walker acousti-seal, will help sealing and keep oxidation down.

AdamHoud 09-03-2007 12:10 PM

They are the white paper ones.

BruceWilkie 09-03-2007 12:33 PM

I got a set of the steel shim type PM me if you cant find locally.

form74 09-03-2007 09:17 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Adamhound, I used the following gaskets on my R.A.R.E manifolds, can you guess where I got them. Don't use the plain steel ones.

Formulabruce 09-03-2007 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonicGM
Are the fel-pros steel shim or paper. I'd use the factory style beaded steel shim myself. Additionally, a very thin coat of exhaust sealer, like walker acousti-seal, will help sealing and keep oxidation down.

and boy do they oxidize fast!! coat them, and bake them ASAP.

Dan Linebarger 11-02-2007 11:26 PM

I have bought RAII and RAIV manifolds from Ram Air Restorations and both sets have been flawless.

Half-Inch Stud 11-03-2007 09:15 PM

Divider imperfections will not hinder perf nor economy, heat/thermals, nor noise.
Yea, stock manifolds had the cast-void line there.

Dan Linebarger 11-03-2007 10:35 PM

yes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud
Divider imperfections will not hinder perf nor economy, heat/thermals, nor noise.
Yea, stock manifolds had the cast-void line there.

You are right. I looked at the RAII exhaust manifolds I recently pulled off my car.
Pic attached:http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...470percent.jpg
Note: There is no gasket for the divider. It is not important.

baron_ 11-04-2007 03:50 AM

i'd be more concerned about the location of the mounting bosses for the exhaust pipes

they interfere with the 66/67 frame, if that's your intended use

grab the grinder and have fun
(don't know why they haven't fixed that)

YVEYANT 11-04-2007 08:56 AM

I went with Felpro gaskets on my new R/a headers instead of the metal and they sealed great.

Half-Inch Stud 11-04-2007 09:00 AM

The FELPRO fabric will act as a thermal barrier allowing your head to run cooler than the metal crush gaskets...less ping, more radiator cooling margin. HIS

Kenth 11-04-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Linebarger
You are right. I looked at the RAII exhaust manifolds I recently pulled off my car.
Pic attached:http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...470percent.jpg
Note: There is no gasket for the divider. It is not important.

These are regular D-port RA manifolds, NOT RAII manifolds, RAII exhaust manifolds are O-port.......

Kenth 11-04-2007 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half-Inch Stud
The FELPRO fabric will act as a thermal barrier allowing your head to run cooler than the metal crush gaskets...less ping, more radiator cooling margin. HIS

How much is the temperature difference in the heads between the two different exhaust gasket styles?


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