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chiefshoe 05-28-2010 10:52 AM

knocking in my head
 
Ok I had my #16 heads rebuilt, and I have a knock in either the #2 or #4. I have changed the rockers, lifters, cam and rods twice and the problem is still there. So I was looking at the studs and the #4 intake stud is higher that all the rest, could this be my problem? Is so, how can I push the stud down further without causing damage. If this is not the problem what do you think it is?

Jim

ARAMP1 05-28-2010 11:30 AM

Does the problem come and go/different with engine temp/rpm?

You say knocking, but usually connecting rods knock and the valvetrain taps (the way I describe it anyway).

chiefshoe 05-28-2010 11:45 AM

Yes tapping would be a better word. It goes along with the rpm if the rpm is higher the tapping is faster.

I thought it could be spark knock but when I pull the plug wires the tapping is still there.

robz 05-28-2010 12:26 PM

Could also be exhaust leak (especially if you have headers)....

Ollie 05-28-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefshoe (Post 4002659)
Ok I had my #16 heads rebuilt, and I have a knock in either the #2 or #4. I have changed the rockers, lifters, cam and rods twice and the problem is still there. So I was looking at the studs and the #4 intake stud is higher that all the rest, could this be my problem? Is so, how can I push the stud down further without causing damage. If this is not the problem what do you think it is?

Jim

Yes, if one stud is higher it is pulling out. You could try tapping it down but there is no guarantee that it will not pull out again. The old school repair is to drill through the stud boss and stud then tap in a roll pin. Or remove the heads and take them to a machine shop and have threaded studs installed.

chiefshoe 05-28-2010 03:37 PM

I pulled it apart and tried the two different torque techniques the tight then 180 and the 20foot pounds. But to no avail it still there, it’s driving my buddy crazy. I have placed the stethoscope everywhere I can’t find it. I will look for an exhaust leek

rememberfireball#22 05-28-2010 05:28 PM

I know now I was informed wrong, but I have always thought the 16 heads had screw in studs.

webfoot 05-28-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rememberfireball#22 (Post 4003004)
I know now I was informed wrong, but I have always thought the 16 heads had screw in studs.

Thats what I thought too but evidently there were some later 16 heads which did not.

Ducks Goat 05-28-2010 05:53 PM

I think the '68 and '69 16 heads are big valve, screw in studs, but the 16's made in '70 were small valve, press in studs.

chiefshoe 05-28-2010 06:54 PM

These are a set of 70 heads I have on a 68 HO is there any way it could be in the springs?


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