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67gtospud 02-12-2014 07:21 PM

New axle seals and bearings
 
Where do you guys order new axle seals and bearings for your pontiac 8.2 rear ends? I'm having a difficult finding the correct parts.

68 Firebird 02-12-2014 07:31 PM

parts
 
Have had good luck with NAPA

Gerry

Ventura455 02-12-2014 08:02 PM

Try Randys Ring and Pinion. The have everything.

Bill Eveland 02-12-2014 09:16 PM

Napa lists BRG RW507CR but this is not going to look like the oe bearings because it's a sealed assembly that comes with a locking retaining ring. This was listed for a 67 GTO but i've used this style bearing for my 66 Tempests I had and didn't have any problems with it.

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...7CR_0172574050

67gtospud 02-12-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Eveland (Post 5133080)
Napa lists BRG RW507CR but this is not going to look like the oe bearings because it's a sealed assembly that comes with a locking retaining ring. This was listed for a 67 GTO but i've used this style bearing for my 66 Tempests I had and didn't have any problems with it.

http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...7CR_0172574050

With that part number I see one bearing with a locking ring, and one without. Do I need the locking ring?

ITSBACK 02-12-2014 09:22 PM

Contact MONZAZ on the forums here. He has it all at a good price. He hooked me up with everything for my 70 Olds rear and the 64 Buick rear in the 65 I'm doing now. Very helpful.

67gtospud 02-12-2014 09:22 PM

These are the ones im looking at:

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...chTerm=bearing

67gtospud 02-12-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 67gtospud (Post 5133087)

And are these the seals I need?

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...7-p#fragment-2

Bill Eveland 02-12-2014 09:27 PM

Yes I would get the one with the locking ring, it's a one time use.

Bill Eveland 02-12-2014 09:37 PM

If that's the seal they call for than it's for the original style set up. Someone correct me if i'm wrong but you don't need an extra axle seal with the sealed bearings. I never put one on mine and no leaks.

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Originally Posted by 67gtospud (Post 5133094)


67gtospud 02-12-2014 09:40 PM

Alright, I'm going to order new bearings and flange gaskets. I see that it's listed that 4 are needed per car, I thought it was only 2?

'ol Pinion head 02-12-2014 11:13 PM

RW507CR is the correct sealed axle bearing. The R in RW507CR is for the retainer. The axle seals are inboard, up in the axle tubes & you will need two National 8594S's.

Make 100% sure there is no wear in the axle mating area. It should be the same thickness where the lock collar & axle bearing are pressed on. If there is any evidence of the sealed bearing seizing & chewing of the axle, the axle should be replaced.

67gtospud 02-12-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'ol Pinion head (Post 5133209)
RW507CR is the correct sealed axle bearing. The R in RW507CR is for the retainer. The axle seals are inboard, up in the axle tubes & you will need two National 8594S's.

Make 100% sure there is no wear in the axle mating area. It should be the same thickness where the lock collar & axle bearing are pressed on. If there is any evidence of the sealed bearing seizing & chewing of the axle, the axle should be replaced.

I had the differential apart when I put all new bearings inside but for the life of me I don't know why I didn't replace the axle bearings, seals or flange gaskets. The axles were in excellent shape.

So now I guess my question is: do I need the national bearings and seals or will just the sealed bearings and new flange gaskets do?

'ol Pinion head 02-13-2014 12:12 AM

National will be the seals, that is Federal Mouls line of seals. Bearings, most likely will be Timken, Federal Mogul (Bower-BCA). Don't accept Chinese bearings like the Partsmaster line.

On the seal, I'd replace the seals, they're most likely 45 years old. What seems to make them go bad is when a sealed axle bearing seizes & chews up the axle, the axle then has more movement up & down,side to side & the old axle seal is opened up slightly. With the sealed axle bearings being permanently lubricated internally, there is not supposed to be rearend grease out on them. The axle seal stops the grease from reaching out there. Later, tapered axle bearings require the lubrication of the axle grease & as a result have an external seal.

Peje 02-13-2014 12:13 AM

The gasket between the backing plate and axle are made of metal original.Then you have a paper gasket on the brake side.

Always replace the oil sealing ring in the axle when replacing bearings,very low cost.
And use Loctite 641 on the outer bearing ring to prevent spinning in the axlehouse.
DO NOT use Loctite 638,it`s VERY strong and you are gonna need inductive heat to get it loose.

Like `ol Pinion head said: Make sure that the shaft is in good condition.One of mine was welded under the bearing and it snapped.Very nasty experience!!

54nomore 02-13-2014 12:14 AM

Yes, you still need the seals. They keep the gear lube away from the back of the bearing where otherwise it may find its way past the bearing and into your brake drums.


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