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GoatZillaRacing 04-18-2019 09:38 PM

First Look @@ High Performance Injuns SpeedMaster Heads
 
Nice thread with lots of pics in the Street Section.

Dragncar 04-18-2019 11:42 PM

I have to say, castings do look nice. Now lets see what some CNC programs can do ?

ck67goat 04-19-2019 07:50 PM

Will be interesting to see users feedback about both quality, use and actual performance. Are these cast and machined locally?

GoatZillaRacing 04-19-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ck67goat (Post 6015057)
Will be interesting to see users feedback about both quality, use and actual performance. Are these cast and machined locally?

These are SpeedMaster heads that we are adding to the line up. An affordable alternative to the current offerings. Check out the Street Section for lots of info.

GoatZillaRacing 05-06-2019 11:27 PM

Slice 'n Dice
 
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Why destroy a brand new $700+ head? Because we want to offer our customers Quality and Affordable Reliability. I have more slicing to do and will be publishing the results in an upcoming magazine article.

So far these heads are exceeding expectations and that's exactly what we want to do.

mgarblik 05-07-2019 09:53 AM

From the first group of pics, I don't see any garbage in the aluminum mix, no inclusions. I would suggest trying to drive out a guide to gauge the press on it. Doing the same with the seats will be more difficult. Looks like adequate material in the head bolt column. Only thing I see in the pics so far is any changes to the spring seat for larger, or more installed height should probably be done with diameter and valve length only. Looks like water is fairly close under the spring seats. Probably wouldn't risk cutting down more than .030" or so for clean-up. Keep up the good work.

slowbird 05-07-2019 11:00 AM

Doesnt appear to have much water flow between center exhaust bowls, that area might get hot and see head gasket issues

GoatZillaRacing 05-07-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slowbird (Post 6020794)
Doesnt appear to have much water flow between center exhaust bowls, that area might get hot and see head gasket issues

There is actually more space there than with the Edelbrocks.

slowbird 05-07-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoatZillaRacing (Post 6020836)
There is actually more space there than with the Edelbrocks.

I've never seen an e-head cut up but a KRE HP heads have good cooling between center exhaust bowls

Scott Roberts 05-07-2019 07:41 PM

If you care to do more testing on the quality of aluminium, send me a chunk of the head.. I will have our lab ( I work at an aluminium casting and exstrusion plant) run it through a bunch of tests...
I will send the results to you and you can do what you want with them..

GoatZillaRacing 05-07-2019 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Roberts (Post 6020928)
If you care to do more testing on the quality of aluminium, send me a chunk of the head.. I will have our lab ( I work at an aluminium casting and exstrusion plant) run it through a bunch of tests...
I will send the results to you and you can do what you want with them..

Thanks Scott! PM me the address and I'll get you some material. This is how we all advance the Pontiac hobby - working together!

Scott Roberts 05-07-2019 09:22 PM

PM sent..

PAUL K 05-07-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Roberts (Post 6020962)
PM sent..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts (Post 6020928)
If you care to do more testing on the quality of aluminium, send me a chunk of the head.. I will have our lab ( I work at an aluminium casting and exstrusion plant) run it through a bunch of tests...
I will send the results to you and you can do what you want with them..

That's awfully nice of you...I thought being nice was against your beliefs. :D

Scott Roberts 05-08-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PAUL K (Post 6020966)
That's awfully nice of you...I thought being nice was against your beliefs. :D

I'm not really an asshole, I just play one on the net..

GoatZillaRacing 05-09-2019 10:00 PM

SpeedMaster Heads Quality Update.

We received the band saw blade today so tomorrow I'll be at it again. Slicin' 'n Dicin'

I've learned that with all SpeedMaster products, the R&D and engineering is all performed at their headquarters in Australia. The castings are made in China and the CNC machine work and assembly is all done right here in the USA. So these heads are truly international and many families are getting fed making these heads.

mgarblik 05-10-2019 07:47 AM

My experience with Chinese "hard engine parts", is that machining performed in the US with US inspections and machine maintenance greatly improves the finished product. So that is good news. If I was Speedmaster, I wouldn't hide the steps you just found out, I would advertise the information. Another example of a company that can make this production method work is Molnar. Design and engineering in the US, Rough product from China, finish machining and inspection in the US. Need to get some of these heads on the track and street ASAP and really try and "prove them".

GoatZillaRacing 05-10-2019 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mgarblik (Post 6021694)
My experience with Chinese "hard engine parts", is that machining performed in the US with US inspections and machine maintenance greatly improves the finished product. So that is good news. If I was Speedmaster, I wouldn't hide the steps you just found out, I would advertise the information. Another example of a company that can make this production method work is Molnar. Design and engineering in the US, Rough product from China, finish machining and inspection in the US. Need to get some of these heads on the track and street ASAP and really try and "prove them".

That's another reason we are a WD with Molnar too.

GTOGEORGE 05-10-2019 09:54 AM

Looks like the price is going up 25%!


GTO George

krisr 05-10-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GoatZillaRacing (Post 6021619)
I've learned that with all SpeedMaster products, the R&D and engineering is all performed at their headquarters in Australia.

Yep, Narellan Sydney is their big warehouse now. I did some work for Pete (owner of Speedmaster) a little while back as he wanted to develop an FI-carb like a Holley Sniper or FiTech and I started the R&D project for him after I paired him up with the Megasquirt guys. Should give him a call as I made him a few test throttle body systems and just needed a motor to run them on to v'fy everything. It's taken him a while to get here in terms of quality, but some of the stuff they produce now is nothing like their old 'cheap' gear. Awesome to hear the heads are a winner!

GTOGEORGE 05-10-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by krisr (Post 6021734)
Awesome to hear the heads are a winner!

Let’s see a set of heads on the track first!

GTO George


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