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Correct Inner fender hardware
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Got a question for the 68 experts. After going through some old GTOAA judging sheets from the previous owner, I believe my inner fender to fender bolts are wrong. Anyone have any pics of originals? Thanks.
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looks like door hinge bolts
and windshield washer reservoir delete ? welcome to the forum ... Scott |
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Pretty sure they should be much shorter and pointy. Usually they have bits of rag stuck to them that gets ripped off when you clean the inner fenders :)
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Yeah, they should be the shorter, sharp pointed ones that dataway shows. The nuts you have on there now are ok. Just change the bolts and I think you'll be good. I've never seen the type you found in the box used in that location. Plenty of other locations but not there.
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Yep .. those clips you found are way too light duty for that location.
The clips you have installed now look to be generic re-pop clips used in various locations. The originals are pretty big. |
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Seeing your going after detail correctness, you can purchase a Gates Power steering hose that does not have that darn ugly restrictor crimped in the center. ;)
We had a thread on that a number of years ago. At some point they starting producing the pressure hose with that restrictor, but the orignal 68's never had it. Gates part number 354730 is a chevy truck hose that is the same, but without the restrictor. Not an exact duplicate of the original as almost nothing is, but is the next best thing & is a very inexpensive improvement :) |
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The unrestored 69 GTO's and LeMans' I've come across over the years use either of those style nuts to hold the inner fenders to the fenders. I never really studied what the pattern was to see if it was an early late thing, or a plant thing or just different suppliers.
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There's no doubt that many of these clips & screws have been swapped around from where they should be. When you think about the assembly lines in 68, those guys didn't see correctness they way we do today. Running low on specific clips & swapping them out for something else to keep things moving until break time wasn't unheard of at all. No question that happened & has been discussed on this site quite a bit :)
My late father in-law had a 68 lemans he ordered new & became my parts car after sitting in a very poor storage arraignment from 1982 - 2001. He never messed with the car from original. While the car was an un restorable rust bucket, it was extremely helpful in the restoration of my GTO as a guide to keeping things correct. There were several things on that car that were original & not what you normally see. For example it had two different sets of bolts holding the quarter glass covers in place. left & right side were completely different. Also had much longer bolts holding the front valance on. Still have all the pictures of that stuff somewhere. I think keeping the hardware that a car had in place from the factory is very cool. It's what preserving & restoring the cars is all about. Also makes for great discussion as well! But if your not 100% sure its original, I would just install the hardware that was most commonly found on these cars. While I am very happy my 68 is finally finished, I really miss all of the research on stuff like this. :) |
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Started browsing through some of the old pics & I have & found another example. These are the hood hinge bolts. I do not know which where in the fender, & which were in the hood, but you can see there are three oddballs. Or, 5 oddballs depending on which ones were supposed to be installed :D
if the bolt bin is running low on the factory floor, I cannot imagine anyone caring which bolt was used in this case. https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...2&d=1609243586 |
My rule of thumb on the pointy vs. squared off bolts is I like the pointy type if they involve anything that has to be flexed into place...fenders, valence panel, etc.
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Here is the screw used for 1970 GTO, may be the same for 1968?
#3960314 size 5/16-18 X 13/16, uses nut #9789994 and a washer at screw head. |
Mine are the same size/shape, but course thread. Not sure if that changed at some point? Both my parts car had GTO had the course threaded bolts. I can take some pics too.
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